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janalsncm 2 hours ago

That shouldn’t affect Grok’ coding ability. How often are people discussing politics with Claude code? Writing decent code is just hard and it’s not just Grok.

thot_experiment 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Not true, aggressive post training makes models notably dumber.

bwhiting2356 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It affects their ability to hire and retain talent.

janalsncm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If training a good model requires talent then that’s the answer to the question this thread is trying to answer: is training a good model actually that hard?

black_knight 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would these be independent?

janalsncm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

More specifically, political lobotomy shouldn’t affect coding ability.

girvo 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You’d be quite surprised, I think. Fine tuning a model on one axis can have drastic impacts on another that as a human we would expect to be completely unrelated.

Discordian93 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yet empirically it does

Hamuko 31 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It's all a bunch of weights isn't it? Why wouldn't fiddling with some parts of the weights have cascading effects?