> Anthropic wants firms like Alibaba punished

Do they care what we want? Im happy that China is copying the models and make them available for everyone, with 1/10 of it's price.

Do they hear themselves ? We steal better, but don’t steal from us :)

Whatever you thoughts on the ethics of the original training, are you comfortable with innovation drying up? Can’t make new models if revenue isn’t coming in.

+1.

Ex-product manager in the SF Bay. Retooling as a product engineer/ product builder because I can build and tinker confidently with LLM assistance, and I want to reduce my dependencies.

So I’m:

* prioritizing local Qwen codegen so I can cancel my OpenAI subscription. * watching CS lectures and learning the fundamentals from the ground up.

Maybe it’s the long-term unemployment talking, but I think the open-model strategy is winning and will continue to win. The recent stories about AI budgets are just the beginning. Wait until executives realize that the advertised “$X.XX per million tokens” is only part of the bill. Context windows, system prompts, conversation history, RAG, tool calls, and orchestration all add up.

Cost-conscious companies will have a strong incentive to hire engineers who can run, customize, and maintain open models rather than paying indefinitely for closed APIs.

Competition is supposed to be the safety net of capitalism that ensures high quality and low prices. Distillation is not illegal. They're just using the LLM in a lawful way. So yes we all should thank the capitalist Chinese labs for helping the consumer in a win-win fashion.

This military strategy talk is not interesting to anyone other than Anthropic AI researchers who decide to work there.