I don't understand the purpose of an analysis that goes on for pages and pages without even mentioning that Meta says Wynn-Williams isn't telling the truth. I'm not saying you have to agree with them! But if you don't acknowledge their stated position you're not going to be able to make sense of the situation.

▲

ryandrake 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course they are going to deny. Whether or not they actually did the things claimed, there is no universe where denying isn’t the best tactic. So their denials in and of themselves don’t mean anything. Every single company accused of wrongdoing publicly denies, all the way up to and including when they settle or are found to have actually done the wrongdoing.

▲

SpicyLemonZest 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Again, I don't think the fact that they're denying it requires you to agree. But if you want to develop an accurate understanding of the world, you have to acknowledge that they are denying it, and evaluate how well this denial explains their actions before launching into complex alternative theories.

	▲	ryandrake 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Given Meta’s (and their leadership’s) outward, visible, documented and repeated bad behavior, “wrongdoing” is not a complex alternative theory. It’s the simplest explanation. So sure, acknowledge that they are denying. The only thing it explains is that horrible entities tend to deny horrible behavior.

▲

unknownfuture 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Then take her to court for libel and prove it. Facebook execs have absolutely not earned the benefit of the doubt, here.

	▲	SpicyLemonZest 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I agree. She sued them a few days ago over it, and reiterates a couple of the worst claims in her complaint, so presumably over the course of that case the two sides will try to prove or disprove them. (It shouldn't be too surprising that Meta didn't start a court battle earlier - is there a single person on the planet who would read "Meta Platforms files $10 million defamation suit against whistleblower" and become less angry at Meta?)

▲

dofm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Well he would, wouldn't he?"

— Mandy Rice-Davies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well_he_would,_wouldn%27t_he%3...

▲

rpgbr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Just like in Justice, where every suspect always say they are to blame when they did commit a crime.

(It's a great book, Mark and co. are more awful people we thought they were.)

▲

mjamesaustin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

There's a clear remedy if she lied about them in print – sue her for libel. And I can't imagine one of the richest corporations in the world would have trouble winning that lawsuit, if it actually were the case.