I've been brewing on this topic since Mythos preview was announced. As Mythos got finally released, then banned, then released again under U.S. government control, it was time to finally flesh it out and use it as a way to exit the lurker-zone on HN !

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dude250711 5 hours ago | parent [-]

"Released" is doing some heavy lifting here.

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Versipelle 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Fair, let's say a heavily staggered come back.

I was actually pleased to see OpenAI openly (although timidly) complaining about the situation in their latest announcement, framing it as an unsustainable system.

One can only guess the outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt.

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petcat 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> outrage in the news if the Chinese government had been the first to pull this kind of stunt.

I suspect that the Chinese government "pulls this kind of stunt" often but just nobody ever hears about it because their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly.

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derektank 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You also have government apparatchiks influencing almost every corporate board, not just the state owned enterprises. Every private company that employs at least 3 CCP members is required by law to form a party committee within the company to represent party interests. In smaller companies, they will often simply coordinate with local governments on securing permits, etc, but I’m sure national party leadership communicates directly with the committees at the AI labs.

	▲	alephnerd an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> I’m sure national party leadership communicates directly with the committees at the AI labs They do now. Top AI researchers in China are barred from getting an exit visa [0] (the PRC has done this for other employees as well such as Foxconn China employees who were working on shifting Apple supply chains to India [1]), and "AI Safety" from a national security perspective has been codified as party policy now [2]. The leading Chinese AI labs are also shifing away from open-source AI for commercial reasons, as can be seen with the org changes at Alibaba with the axing of the Qwen team [3][4]. That said, these are called out but it's all in Putonghua and no one on HN actively reads or follows what happens within China. I've noticed most HNers now source information from Reddit which has been dealing with DRAGONBRIDGE deluge for a couple years now, and I've noticed similar tactics being applied on HN as well. In all honesty, I've found HN's noise to signal ratio to have tanked severely since 2022. Silver lining is that less people that matter are using it as much, so the IW impact is limited. [0] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-05-26/china-exp... [1] - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-01-17/china-mov... [2] - http://theory.people.com.cn/n1/2026/0616/c40531-40741238.htm... [3] - https://m.guancha.cn/economy/2026_06_12_820253.shtml [4] - https://www.ft.com/content/b39da303-3188-447b-8b65-3dd8dad8b...

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throawayonthe 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> their society is not free to complain about such a thing publicly

wuh?

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jchw 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It seems our government still has a lot to learn.

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Henchman21 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah so you can see the future of discourse in the US

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signatoremo an hour ago | parent [-]

Democracy cannot be taken for granted. There are always tendencies to drift toward authoritarian. China is authoritarian, full stop. They are capitalism, not communism, but authoritarian. Keep that in mind when discussing what come out of China.

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Henchman21 35 minutes ago | parent [-]

We actively take it for granted in the US AND we’re actively watching it slip away. No one seems to give a shit.

	▲	Avicebron 18 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Plenty of people give a shit. We are watching and making decisions about what to do about it as it develops. Trust me, the US isn't even close to the kind of "ethnic unity" actions that China is taking, among many other things.