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smcleod 6 hours ago

Qwen as well.

kamranjon 6 hours ago | parent [-]

There was a recent exodus from Qwen of researchers who supported their open source efforts, I’m not sure we will see many new open models from them past the 3.6 series.

markasoftware 21 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

are you able to say more about this (specifically that the researchers who left were concerned that qwen models were being closed sourced)? I was under the impression that the chinese labs and their employees aren't particularly concerned about ideology/safety/whatever and were just releasing open source models because it helps with publicity and does the most damage to the US AI labs. (and to be clear, I strongly support open source models, I just doubt that the Chinese labs and their employees are actually motivated by morals).

kamranjon 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

This was the easiest link I could find but TechCrunch also has an article on the departure - this one didn’t require turning off ad blockers though and has a bit more rumor mill stuff: https://chinabizinsider.com/alibabas-qwen-faces-turmoil-as-t...

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