Remix.run Logo
lelanthran 8 hours ago

These companies providing tokens, whether SOTA or not, that want to IPO are so fucked as time goes on.

Can't sell their SOTA models, only slightly better than the open source models for the models they can sell, cost 20x to 50x for good models, a TAM that consists almost solely of developers, with no customer of theirs actually boasting increased profits as a result of AI...

I fear their time to IPO may have passed.

utopiah 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The question is even, was there EVER a time for an IPO?

If the business model requires hundreds of billions to get the required quality (R&D but also infrastructure to collect data and train, either purchased or rented to 3rd party) while "only" dozens of billions can be earned back (as costs still exist to earn, it's not free once models are trained), then maybe there NEVER was nor till be a good time for an IPO in a rational market.

notnullorvoid 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> in a rational market.

Unfortunately the market is often not rational in this way.

Hype within retail market means there are suckers willing to buy. Institutional market knows there are suckers when the hype is high. Both would drive the price up, and retail investors the ones left when it falls.

2838383838 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

IPOs with massive bags can be wework or spacex, it all depends on vibes. If they buy a couple more articles doomposting and glazing AI on the financial times right before exit they will def find a bunch of boomers to buy their bags. If the narrative changes before they IPO its over.

7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]
[deleted]