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nicce 8 hours ago

This applies to every provider. OpenAI seems to be the worst hoarder.

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pokot0 8 hours ago | parent [-]

actually you can buy inference on third party providers that serve deepseek v4 pro with zero data retention (ZDR).

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nicce 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Only reliable way to have zero data retention is to self-host.

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LeBit 7 hours ago | parent [-]

True. But at some point you got to close your eyes and take a step forward.

It’s like with VPN providers. Is Mullvad actually collaborating with law enforcement? They very well could be. It is a calculated risk.

Is DeepInfra actually logging and training or selling the logs? They could be.

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flipped 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Mullvad has proved it doesn't collect. It's laughable to even suggest it.

They have been raided multiple times, tons of audits, does bleeding edge research on privacy preserving tech, donates to GOS, etc etc. You don't see this kind of VPN company at all because none exists.

	▲	nicce 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		With Mullvad the threat space is also different. Most of the data is end-to-end encrypted anyway with proven methods. With LLMs you can't do that yet.

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CharlesW an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

How does one find trustworthy ZDR DeepSeek 4 Pro providers?