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▲ tw1984 9 hours ago

> Chinese labs are also still behind, so they’re incentivized to collaborate and have no reason to do it in private.

US labs in Google, Meta and SpaceX are not leading, none of them managed to build something on par with GLM 5.2.

Care to explain to me why they still don't collaborate and still choose to do it in private?

▲vidarh 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm not sure I'd put Google in that list, but either way: Because they think they have enough capital that they can catch up and don't need the reputational boost of this.

▲CuriouslyC 8 hours ago | parent [-]

As good as Gemini's visual intelligence is, it's a terrible agent.

▲7speter 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Google at least still releases open source models to the public.

▲VorpalWay 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Aren't they only open weights, not true open source?

▲HarHarVeryFunny 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The concept of open source doesn't really apply to AI models since their behavior is mostly controlled by the data they were trained on and the complex ways they are trained. Having the source code of the model by itself wouldn't help you.

From a practical POV having all the training data, training infrastructure, and training know-how wouldn't help you either unless you could afford to spend the millions of dollars (hundreds of millions for a SOTA model) in compute to train it each time they released a new training set, in which case you're only talking about the big commercial companies. "open source for the people" just does not apply.

▲re-thc 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thank Apple?

Those are mostly for embedded devices and the current "sponsor" is Apple.

▲wqaatwt 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gemini 3.1 is still up there, though? If Google started to compete on price they could be very successful.

▲budsniffer952 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait, are you claiming that these companies haven't contributed to the ecosystem via research and open source?

▲lwansbrough 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No idea I don’t work there.