> I guess a US business with non-citizen employees could work.

No. Only if those employees have a green card and the company must not only take on that responsibility but ensure other employees are denied access. Otherwise the company would be subject to millions in fines.

US export laws are no fuckin' joke like everyone here seems to think they are.

It's really frustrating to read pages of comments rooted in emotion and no understanding of the existing laws.

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hagemt 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's really frustrating to read pages of comments rooted in emotion and no understanding of the existing laws.

I read your frustration. Try to let go of the fact that there are many smart people who aren't experts in legal affairs. Cite eCFR if they're wrong, and move on. As much as they don't know the rules, you don't know their situation.

For all you know, the subscriber may be a US Citizen + Delaware C Corp owner.

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naturalmovement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

At some point it becomes willful ignorance of history.

I remember a time not very long ago when everyday crypto like 128-bit SSL was restricted under US export law. The old web browsers came in separate, "exportable" versions. [1]

Phil Zimmermann was in big trouble for releasing PGP. That was the mid-90s. Clinton was President so this stuff transcends politics.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netscape_Navigator_1.1_fo...

	▲	edukite 36 minutes ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Yes, because US CIA and NSA was hacking half of the World. You can learn about this in Cybersecurity books. This is different situation. Cybersecurity specialists (at least those I found and read) don't consider Mythos as something really powerful. Good tool but not groundbreaking. Anthropic was playing terror game and burned by it
	▲	johnisgood 24 minutes ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Good, so it might not be over, considering everyone around the world can use PGP and browsers?

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zarzavat 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That was in reference to whether anyone outside of Anthropic might be able to have standing to sue at all, not the merits of the case.