If you are going into an area with bears, you should be prepared for bears. Appropriate behavior isn't conditional on someone dying recently. The risks in an area are widely published and posted by the National Park Service. This is basic safety.

It is common to see people in National Parks flagrantly ignore the many warnings. Honestly, I am surprised it is only 350 deaths per year.

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bix6 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If there is heightened animal activity in an area it helps to know, especially if they are aggressive. We adjust where we go to avoid especially dangerous situations.

	▲	jandrewrogers 11 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		The National Park Service continuously posts updated guidance based on animal activity and will temporarily close areas of the park if there is an aggressive animal. This isn't being changed by the policy in the article. Allowing arbitrary NPS employees talk to the public about people that may have died isn't required for any of this. To be honest, I am surprised that this new policy didn't already exist. It is very common practice to manage incident comms this way.
	▲	arjie 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		But aggressive animal presence is indicated by incident frequency not fatality frequency. It would seem that you still have access to the former.

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teachrdan 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Honestly, I am surprised it is only 350 deaths per year.

Isn't this exactly why we need to know how many deaths there are -- so we can judge the level of risk we face?

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jandrewrogers 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The number of deaths tell you relatively little about the risks because almost all of them are preventable. If you don't ignore the myriad highly visible warnings, the risks are below the noise floor. You take a bigger risk of death driving to the National Park.

For example, dozens of people die every year due to heat stroke and dehydration in places like Death Valley, Joshua Tree, and White Sands. The National Park Service posts many large signs warning you to bring sufficient water that thousands of people ignore. Most people that ignore the warning don't die but you could eliminate the risk entirely by simply staying hydrated.

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collingreen 11 hours ago | parent [-]

You keep using numbers to underpin your comments. The parent's point is that it's important to have access to numbers like this. From where I'm sitting it seems like you very much agree despite your comments sounding like disagreement or deflection.

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jandrewrogers 7 hours ago | parent [-]

The National Park Service post signs in specific areas that keep a running tally of how many people have died in that spot. I don’t have any objection to those signs, they are kind of interesting in a train wreck sort of way. Despite that, the numbers on those signs go up every year.

Knowing about a death in the last 24 hours doesn’t matter because it doesn’t materially impact the prevalence of the behavior that is the root cause of the deaths. At the same time, the government has an interest in not letting random employees with hot takes talk to the media with incomplete or erroneous information; this also is a liability. That is standard operating procedure almost everywhere, I just find it weird that we care here, particularly when it has zero relevance to safety.

No lives are being lost or saved by this policy. As an observation, I think few people would accept the kinds of policies that would be required to actually reduce deaths in National Parks.

	▲	sanktanglia 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sometimes the wild animal that attacked a person is still in the area, but I agree with you in general the signs are not helping prevent deaths

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TurdF3rguson 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You mean like > 10 == take bear spray, > 20 == cancel the trip? Because how do you even come up with that formula? Is it a per-capita number or total?

Also: How many people killed by falling coconuts would cause you to cancel a Hawaiian vacation?

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sagarm 9 hours ago | parent [-]

How many people die climbing half dome? Do the deaths tend to happen I only inclement weather?

Do you realize how divorced from reality you people sound?

	▲	TurdF3rguson 4 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Why are you directing this at me? I couldn't care less about people dying climbing half-dome. It seems like one of the better ways to go.