| ▲ | tptacek 2 hours ago |
| I see it too, but worth noting that this is basically unprecedented at least within the last 25 years; I think you have to go back to export controlled cryptography for another example of this kind of abrupt and targeted regulation. |
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| ▲ | jameshart 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| We’ve seen more examples recently. TikTok, wireless routers, polestar cars… |
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| ▲ | boelboel an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Huawei, Foreign gambling sites were banned on dubious reasons in 2006 (in reality American companies weren't as competitive and las Vegas needed to be protected), Japanese electronic tariffs in the 80s/90s ... US never exactly believe in full on 'free trade'. | | |
| ▲ | smallmancontrov an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The US believed in free trade precisely when the politically connected needed labor arbitrage, and protectionism exactly when the politically connected needed protection. The pretense of underlying ideals was never more than a political tool - political economy was always political. | |
| ▲ | wwalexander an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Japanese electronic tariffs in the 80s Also motorcycles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_motorcycle_tariff | |
| ▲ | tehjoker an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "Kicking Away the Ladder: Development Strategy in Historical Perspective by Ha-Joon Chang" "How did the rich countries really become rich? In this provocative study, Ha-Joon Chang examines the great pressure on developing countries from the developed world to adopt certain 'good policies' and 'good institutions', seen today as necessary for economic development. His conclusions are compelling and disturbing: that developed countries are attempting to 'kick away the ladder' with which they have climbed to the top, thereby preventing developing countries from adopting policies and institutions that they themselves have used." https://www.amazon.com/Kicking-Away-Ladder-Development-Persp... | |
| ▲ | oblio 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | The entire US auto industry is predicated on protectionism. Without it the Japanese would have wiped out GM/Ford/Chrysler in the 1980s, and now the Chinese in the 2020s-2030s. |
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| ▲ | dv_dt 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | See the Chicken tax for trucks for a not so recent example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax | |
| ▲ | frollogaston an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | TikTok ban was the worst one because it was about speech, not trade or security. If the bill said "China banned our social media so we're gonna ban theirs in reciprocity," that'd be a way more valid reason. | | |
| ▲ | munk-a 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It's also super annoying being collateral damage in America's war on free speech. Canadian TikTok is now also being similarly moderated for content unfriendly of your administration. I guess we're still in a position of privilege where we can grow domestic social platforms to compete while American simply have no alternatives - anything that grows sufficiently large will be turned towards similar propaganda aims. | |
| ▲ | petre 24 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Instagram is just as worse. |
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| ▲ | martinjc 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A real headscratcher isn't it? And from a government that is supposedly priding itself on small government. How should companies navigate this? What's the framework they should operate within? |
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| ▲ | kommunicate an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Claiming the mantle of "small government" was simply an exercise in marketing to relax regulation meant to prevent bribery and corruption. In practice, the current slate of government officials believes in absolute control of whatever they want whenever they want. It's a mirror case of the supposed "free speech absolutists" who immediately turned around and silenced, sued, fired or jailed once granted the power to do so. | |
| ▲ | heylook 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Small governments don't deploy thousands of military troops into their own cities. | | |
| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | |
| ▲ | newfriend an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | One of the few roles a "small government" should actually take on is defending from invaders. | | |
| ▲ | NonHyloMorph 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | You are misled/misleading. Get informed about the political theory of domestic deployment of troops for the purpose of policing in western democracues. Look how those who speak for the U.S. military personell (former generals, the editorial of that magazine they produce in the U.S. army prior to being pruned) if you need some motivation. | |
| ▲ | jeremyjh 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Are the invaders in the room with us right now? | |
| ▲ | oblio 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which invaders? Has the Iran War taken a 180 degree turn? | | |
| ▲ | sph 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Until a few minutes ago, Iran did technically win the war. |
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| ▲ | dboreham 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's only small government when they are trying to not give money to some group they don't like. | |
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| ▲ | outside1234 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's almost like he expects bribes to release the model, but I'm just being paranoid. | | |
| ▲ | babypuncher an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | This whole administration is absolutely rampant with corruption. Just yesterday we had JD Vance on TV saying that if Watergate happened today, it would just be a 12 hour news story, because they are getting away with so much worse. Anyone who denies or defends this administration's corruption is complicit. | | | |
| ▲ | exe34 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Anthropic peace prize coming up next. |
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| ▲ | WesBrownSQL 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Munitions exporting. I fondly remember the PGP feasco. I spent years using PGP to encrypt my emails to several people who refused to use email without it. Good times. |
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| ▲ | shimman 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Unprecedented? This is very much precedented and has been the end goal when you disallow regulations and public input when it comes to technology proliferation. When was the last time the public had an ability to direct technology in the US? This is the result of private interests working authoritarian governments (hint, it rhymes with classism). |
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| ▲ | jopsen an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Competent government wouldn't do this either...
...also why I think it won't last. Doubtful it'd hold in court; this admin would have to show that it's not corruption, because we'd all assume otherwise. |
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| ▲ | tehlike 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| release the weights! freedom of speech! |
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| ▲ | jdiff 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Whose speech? Nobody with the weights is trying to speak them. | | | |
| ▲ | mrngld 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, that's what we need, frontier intelligence models open in the wild that, if a jailbreak is reliably established, there's no possibility for anyone to ever patch at the API layer. Because there is no API layer. | |
| ▲ | tptacek 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "This stack of 15.3 million t-shirts is a munition." | | |
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| ▲ | paulsutter an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Between $5-10T of the US economy is subject to export controls. Nobody disputes that Mythos is dual-use technology, which means it has been export controlled since the day it was created. Companies are responsible for demonstrating criteria to export (for example) a nerfed version (Fable) of an export controlled item (Mythos) Nothing here is novel, unusual, capricious, or … fascisistic. |
