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A_D_E_P_T 3 hours ago

> Only companies approved by the government will get access. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model.

I knew the time would come when individuals on personal subscriptions get the short end of the stick. Didn't think it would come so soon. I hope we're not too badly deprecated in the months to come.

Looks like I've got to improve my DeepSeek workflows.

stanac 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For personal use I don't care if I get access to it. Tokens are becoming too expensive. I am using Chinese models. What worries me is that my company may never get access. I work for a well known US company, but from Europe, we also have developers in Mexico. I can only guess US gov will take this into account when deciding who gets to use the new models.

Even worse than not getting access is getting fired. Since less than 20% of our developers reside outside US and our management is suffering from AI hype, they can decide to close foreign offices as a way to get access to new models.

edit: grammar

malfist 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> For personal use I don't care if I get access to it

There's a big difference between being priced out of a market option and the government saying you literally cannot buy it. We should all be wary of government controls like this.

stanac an hour ago | parent | next [-]

You are right, I was thinking selfishly. I don't like the control governments have on tech in general. In my country government forced banks to use device attestation for banking apps. If your android phone is in developer mode banking app won't work, you can change bank but it will make no difference. I think they are also enforcing 2FA to be in the banking apps, so I can't even use web app without locked down android phone or iPhone.

bofadeez an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

in theory yes

ajmurmann 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Even the subscriptions are too expensive?

stanac an hour ago | parent [-]

Last time I used subscription I hit a usage limit in 20 minutes (gemini). I switched to openrouter and have enough prepaid credits to last me for months with Chinese models. I spent about $30 in last two months.

nomel 27 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> I knew the time would come when individuals on personal subscriptions get the short end of the stick.

This is how it started.

Only researchers were able to get access to the early super dangerous AI models that were much worse than you can now run locally on your phone.

mynameisvlad an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the OpenAI press release:

> We don’t believe this kind of government access process should become the long-term default. It keeps the best tools from users, developers, enterprises, cyber defenders, and global partners who need them. We are taking this short-term step because we believe it is the strongest path to broader availability in the coming weeks, while we work with the Administration to develop the cyber Executive Order framework and a repeatable process for future model releases.

It seems like the exclusion is temporary. There is no process for individual users to get access to the new model _right now_.

vitally3643 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

You have to be very intentionally dishonest and ignorant to ever believe that increased government powers are "temporary".

That's how authoritarian governments become authoritarian.

mynameisvlad 32 minutes ago | parent [-]

Nobody denies or even claimed that.

Just as a reminder, the claim (only two comments ago) was that it will never reach people and be limited only to certain government-approved companies.

The press release pretty clearly outlines the next steps that will eventually get it into people's hands.

That is the claim that is being refuted. Nothing about the obvious government overreach happening here. You are the one that decided to bring that in as a strawman.

ramijames 17 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You and I both know that capitalism values corporations over individuals.

sixothree 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also I'd be willing to bet companies in left-leaning states, or with left-leaning figureheads will be excluded from use as well. This administration is amazingly petty and has captured voter records for a reason.

paxys 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you remove left-leaning states there’s no company remaining that will actually use these models.

krzyk 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Or provide them.

cyanydeez 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

yeah, but didn't you hope the people rubber stamping AI information weren't the nazis?