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amunozo 4 hours ago

But you have multiple providers, not just one.

paxys 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And every single one of those providers would buckle under government pressure.

Fable itself is hosted on all major cloud providers. How many offer it today?

eli 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This seems a little fanciful.

There's really no comparison between a model that Anthropic allows Google and Amazon to host with one that has been downloaded hundreds of thousands of times and has dozens of public inference providers.

Art9681 an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't think they "allow" Google or Amazon to host them so much as Anthropic itself is deploying and managing their services on multiple cloud providers just like every other global scale business. Even the models served via OpenRouter are just being routed to compute under Anthropic control. Same with OpenAI. They aren't going to hand the world's most valuable intellectual property at the moment to some third party to run independently.

Now for the Chinese models on OpenRouter, yea. Those providers could be legit. Or it could be a failed crypto mining operation pivoting to providing AI compute. Who knows.

minimaxir 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The providers on OpenRouter are not all in the US.

paxys 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That doesn’t mean they are immune to US laws. If they want to continue to operate in the largest market in the world they will fall in line.

And if you are a legit American business you aren’t going to illegally bypass import/export controls.

svachalek 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

More importantly, the download is out there. You can download it yourself today, and if it's that important to you, you can buy the hardware too.

cyanydeez 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm sure he's referring to the tightening of internet controls around social media as an extrapolation to controlling websites, etc.

logicchains 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Even in that case it can't be taken away; GPT and Claude are banned in China yet there's still a huge black market for tokens.