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lend000 4 hours ago

Anthropic's fear-mongering and marketing is the reason we have these restrictions in the first place.

Despite their virtue signaling, Anthropic is the only major lab that has never released an open weights model, has been caught intentionally nerfing a model after release (Opus 4.6), intentionally and silently degrades performance for suspected competitors and AI researchers, complains incessantly about distillation when everyone is doing it (and after they settled for pirating books), and wants to pull the ladder out from everyone trying to catch up.

They're anti-consumer and only concerned with holding the power themselves. I'm not a fan of Altman, but Anthropic is the worst actor in the space, and I hope they lose.

prash20026 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Hasn't OpenAI being doing it for a while too?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48465269

scrlk 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The common denominator between "GPT-2 is too dangerous to release" and Anthropic is Dario.

llelouch 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Sam Altman was doing interviews talking about p(doom). They all were requesting regulation just not this opaque ad hoc kind.

lend000 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Ironically, Google is the company I'd prefer to have the frontier models.

boc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Anthropic's fear-mongering

I mean it's fear-mongering until it isn't. I think people have become a bit too comfortable with dismissing the dangers of misaligned AI as simply "marketing hype".

intended 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anthropic is the lightning rod.

Everyone in the space was talking about the automation of work from about day 2. People couldn’t stop themselves from talking about the way it was going to end work, and tech firms were firing people left right and center over AI.

Notably, Anthropic is the firm that stuck to its guns with the US Government, meaning they likely believe in their own spiel.

tiahura 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What about openai's fear mongering, or googles, or JP Morgans, or Frank Herbert's, or Arthur C. Clarke's or Samuel Butler's?

If you can't envision plausible scenarios where very bad things happen because of a malevolent actor, ChatGPT 6, and a little bad luck - you need to think harder.

lend000 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah honestly I don't get any of the fear-mongering from any side. If access to intelligence and knowledge is scary to you, that's a you problem.

Is it going to change the world? Yes. In more positive ways than negative ways. Websites will continue to get hacked, as they are already getting hacked. People who are afraid of AI are really just afraid of change.

sixothree 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They aren't the current target for right wing hated.