| ▲ | avmich 3 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Can we really accelerate any probe to faster than 1% c? Or 2% c? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | kimixa 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
No, not even close. The issue is simply exhaust velocity and reaction mass, that leads us into the tyranny of the rocket equation - in that you have to carry that reaction mass with you and accelerate that mass too. Even if you had magic infinite energy - e.g. it's supplied externally by a laser or similar. Using the theorized maximum of 31km/s exhaust velocity of project orion (much higher than any current high impulse propulsion technologies) you'd need to have thrown out something similar to 10^42 times the probe's mass out the back at that 31km/s velocity. That means to accelerate a 1kg probe to 1%c you'd need to start with a spacecraft holding a reaction mass equivalent to a few trillion suns worth of mass. Hardly seems worth it. It's all about exhaust velocity - increase that and it scales down quickly. Using the theoretical max of 500km/s of VASIMIR for example means it's only 400x the mass of the probe of reaction mass - but that's still theory and max thrust limits means it'll take the order of millions of years to reach that sort of speed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | altruios 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
One idea that stuck out to me was an array of giant thin solar powered spinning metal Crookes radiometers magnets in a line to make a railgun-like launcher. Materially cheap to do. Related, but not exactly what I was thinking of: https://www.centauri-dreams.org/2025/08/05/a-rotating-probe-... The original source I'm thinking of may be lost to time :( I'll keep hunting. edit:found! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | patagurbon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
We have the physics but not the engineering. See the Breakthrough Starshot project for instance | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | r2_pilot 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Yes, with lasers or nuclear energy | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ck2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I think the idea is tic-tac sized probes with nano circuitry (that doesn't exist yet) accelerated by lasers so they don't have to carry the power source Obviously stopping is the problem, they can never stop but at some point no need | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | tclancy 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Per new Space Force regulations, we are using F for an adjusted speed of light. We are currently able to achieve 1.48F. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||