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| ▲ | mewpmewp2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| That is interesting, but also I do wonder, what in life doesn't have a variable reward? You could say that any routine activities like maybe cleaning, etc, is all the same, but most non routine things in life seem like they would have variable reward? E.g. talking to people definitely yields in very variable rewards, if you do non routine work, there's constant variable rewards, etc. |
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| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Happiness is derived from a balance of a meaningful life, and pleasant experiences we may choose. Also, one may have no pain or concerns, and still existentially despair over a meaningless life built on intelligence campaigns exploiting millions of people. Only psychopaths find short lived joy in harming others, and only make up around 1% of general populations. Have a wonderful day =3 | | |
| ▲ | mewpmewp2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think happiness is very complicated. Would you think there's a perfect formula to follow that will yield you the "happiness"? And how does this relate to different brain wirings of different people? Would you say per brain wiring there's a different specific ideal formula one would have to follow? E.g. there's some base things like getting proper sleep, exercise, diet, but then there's some more specific things for that brain wiring? | | |
| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >Would you think there's a perfect formula The advice comes from coursework most medical students must do in year 2. It is backed by research data on integrated healthcare programs. Simply avoiding misery is not the whole equation. =3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o | | |
| ▲ | mewpmewp2 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Would you say you are happy as in you have solved happiness for yourself? | | |
| ▲ | Joel_Mckay an hour ago | parent [-] | | On occasion, as I often chose wisdom, logic, and indifferentism. =3 | | |
| ▲ | mewpmewp2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Do you mean those three things are what let you solve it, or that they're what kept you from solving it more often? | | |
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| ▲ | cindyllm 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | fcarraldo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yep, LLM chat is classic skinner box design. It’s effectively gambling. |
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| ▲ | akramachamarei 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > it’s essentially an addiction that many people have not even recognized A little patronizing, no? Maybe some people actually like it, even if you or I don't. |
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| ▲ | russ-curry 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a slot machine that plays you. |
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| ▲ | tptacek 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In what sense is this true that isn't true of a simple web search? |
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| ▲ | mewpmewp2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And on the other hand talking to people, but I guess most extroverts in a way are "addicted" to talking to people as well, so it's a fair comparison. From my personal experience talking to people can end in wildly differing and unexpected results. In fact, I think rewards from LLMs are way more static as opposed to rewards from talking to people. | |
| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | A web search doesn't use isomorphic plagiarism of naive users work to sell to other users. LLM are actually good at context search, but are mostly not being used as intended. The LLM hype bubble has to end sooner or later. =3 | | |
| ▲ | mewpmewp2 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | How does that answer the question or relate to variable reward and addiction mechanisms? This just seems another unrelated negative sentiment argument towards LLMs? | | |
| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not really, people are simply fooled by pernicious sycophantic idealism, and their own cognitive biases. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_Turk LLM are great for context search, but were never real "AI" in any sense except in media/PR sensationalism. Scientific hubris and unethical use of LLM is interesting as exposes the primitive impulsive nature of many. Best of luck =3 |
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| ▲ | Joel_Mckay 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| They used to call it schizophrenia, and put people in padded rooms for such delusions. Now, "AI" ego manipulation is a mental dildo for people that should know better philosophically. However, we shouldn't kink shame, so give this post a thumbs-down if you agree. lol =3 |
