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| ▲ | anonym29 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | "ethnic cleansing" is an emotionally charged term that conjures genocide in the popular imagination. It is not a good descriptive term for what can rightly be described as regressive or ultra-nationalistic migration policy. | | |
| ▲ | 10xDev 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You are essentially calling for a civil war. Reason why Russia pushes these ideas under fake "patriot" accounts. | | |
| ▲ | ShinyLeftPad 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Would it be a civil war if it was a law passed by elected government? | | | |
| ▲ | anonym29 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Are you trying to respond to a different comment? I'm not sure what this has to do with what I said. P.S. Fuck Putin, Slava Ukraini! | |
| ▲ | snackerblues 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | phs318u an hour ago | parent [-] | | Leaving aside the fact you’re a white supremacist racist as some of your other flagged/dead comments make abundantly clear, I’ll nevertheless engage with your first point. > A country has the right to determine who lives within it. This is obviously true and every country has laws in place governing immigration and different laws in place governing handling of refugees. Given in most countries the ratio of immigrants to refugees is very high, what is it you’re objecting to? Countries can change their laws and often do, after a change in government. There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with arguing for specific levels of immigration. But what you really shouldn’t do is retrospectively change the rules so that people who immigrated legally and settled in their adopted country are now threatened with expulsion. It seems to me that in a lot of the discussion around immigration there is a subtext of “I don’t like how they behave/think/choose to live.” Which would be fine if people were honest about what they want - in which case, feel free to agitate for laws governing citizens’ behaviour. Don’t be a bad sport however if such laws don’t get passed.
Another thing that apparently worries some people is criminality (as if that’s a function of race). By definition, something is criminal if it’s against the law. So enforce the law. Laws are typically not racist and criminals come in all flavours. |
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| ▲ | teh64 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is the definition from wikipedia:
"Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of ethnic, racial, or religious groups from a given area, with the intent of making the society ethnically homogeneous." How does what Allard said not fit this definition? | | |
| ▲ | constantius 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't have a horse in this race, but all the quotes here were based on nationality, not on the characteristics listed in your quote: the party wants to deport illegal immigrants and immigrants who are not "economically integrated", because Swede is not an ethnicity. Being left and anti-immigration is not an oxymoron. Though I must say, based on some comments here, that people who are defending the party's ideology do seem to read it in terms of race... | | |
| ▲ | type0 24 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Swede is ethnicity in same way as Dane is ethnicity, Swedish and Danish is nationalities. Ethnic Sámi, while living on their ancestors land can be Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish or even Russian in nationality. | |
| ▲ | cherry_tree an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | No, a Somali who immigrated to Sweden is nationality wise Swedish and ethnicity wise Somali. The quote clearly says to expel Somalis and makes no distinction between ethnicity and nationality. Why do apologia for racism anyways? Weird stuff dude. | | |
| ▲ | constantius 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > Why do apologia for racism anyways? Weird stuff dude. Don't put words in my mouth. > No, a Somali who immigrated to Sweden is nationality wise Swedish and ethnicity wise Somali You seem to misunderstand the concepts of nationality and ethnicity, and how naturalisation operates. |
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| ▲ | anonym29 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is Allard advocating for removing everyone from immigrant backgrounds? I got the impression that Allard only wanted to remove criminals and net tax recipients, e.g. not removing law abiding, tax-paying, assimilated members of Swedish society, regardless of ethnicity/race/background. |
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| ▲ | gpm 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ethnic cleansing is an emotionally charged term, yes, because the crime against of humanity of deporting an entire population is absolutely horrific and a very close neighbour to genocide. The proposed policy here is squarely what Rome Statute, Article 7 (1)(d) is intended to prevent. Sweden is a party to the treaty. | |
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