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| ▲ | Capricorn2481 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Are you talking about immigrants (who are guests in the country) The party advocates for deporting people who are born in the country. | | |
| ▲ | ShinyLeftPad 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Who speak the language of the country and work productive jobs? | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, this the gist of this proposal by the ethno-nationalist right. That is what it says in the linked article above, did you read it? If you did, why do you ask more? If not, how is it that you care enough to ask? | | |
| ▲ | ShinyLeftPad 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | why do I care what random social media says about their policies if I can read what Wikipedia and Swedes say about it. if they really want to deport regular integrated members of society who only differ for their color then I probably wouldn't agree with that policy of theirs if I was Swedish. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom an hour ago | parent [-] | | > why do I care what random social media says The linked article above is literally Wikipedia. You are wasting everyone's time. |
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| ▲ | pixel_popping 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why would being born in the country give you citizenship or the right to stay? The citizenship is inherited by blood in large majority of cases in the world, the child has the nationality of the parents, not just the country where you "give birth", if I stay in Thailand with my wife and she suddenly give birth there, you expect the child to be Thai even if both parents are European? :/ Deporting parents (thus with their children) is normal if they are staying in the country illegally without any sort of valid visa or permit, what's the alternative? Give citizenship to anyone crossing the border? | | |
| ▲ | Capricorn2481 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Deporting parents (thus with their children) is normal if they are staying in the country illegally without any sort of valid visa or permit, what's the alternative? Give citizenship to anyone crossing the border? We are not talking about families or parents who visit a country for a few months and give birth, and you know that. We are talking about taking 15 year olds who have only known life in that country and deporting them to a country they've never been to. > Why would being born in the country give you citizenship or the right to stay? Because Sweden seems to think so? Many countries offer citizenship if you are born on soil, and while Sweden isn't one of them, it offers expedited paths to citizenship if you have lived in the country for a while. Because most people intuitively understand that there's no sense deporting someone who is more connected to Sweden than they are their home country. | | |
| ▲ | pixel_popping 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The ones that have been in the country for 15 years should have a permanent residency already (if they don't, then it's very likely they came illegally), which is a valid long-term VISA, in which case I agree that they should not be deported, but the ones that don't have any valid visa, they should be, in what world do we allow people to stay illegally and then what, must steal IDs and forge docs to live correctly and get a job... I feel it also teaches wrong values to our children (it's fine to just stop renewing visa and overstay or just plainly cross another country's border without permission), it doesn't feel right Only ~16% of countries are having right of soil, it's not really the norm and it's mostly actually with many conditions for most, a ton of people are against what's happening with immigration so it's not really Sweden thinks so type of deal here, it's mixed opinion, similar to the US. |
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| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > How can you "remigrate" Swedish citizens? They are citizens This is answered in the first para of the linked Wikipedia article. "remigration" is not the parent poster's term, your misunderstanding of it is not on them at this point. > Are you talking about immigrants (who are guests in the country) No. and also, that statement about immigrants is false as a categorisation. | | |
| ▲ | addedGone 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | how can you deport Swedish citizens? is there any mechanism in the law allowing to deport their own citizen? If not, then this whole talk is solely about immigration. | | |
| ▲ | SideburnsOfDoom 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | >how can you deport Swedish citizens "You" ? Again, I ask you to do the reading and/or query the people advocating for such policies, and not me or the parent poster. Why do you persist in misunderstanding? We might be constrained by the bounds of law and making sense, but I do not think that the people advocating for such racist policies are. > this whole talk is solely about immigration. It is not, do not derail. > is there any mechanism in the law ... If not Are you ... are you seriously unaware that the party in power can literally make new laws? Or otherwise work around existing laws? Really? |
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