I read somewhere that the owners have ties to russia, but the most important thing is that they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS.

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ttkari 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> they’re marketing very aggressively through posts that slander GraphenOS

I would really appreciate it if you could give some references - any at all - to back this claim.

All I have seen is GrapheneOS folks (or probably just a certain individual affiliated with the GrapheneOS org) accusing them of doing this.

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ndiddy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IIRC the company tried to become a major mobile operating system in the BRICS countries, which led to Rostelecom, the Russian state telecom operator, purchasing a majority state in the company in the mid-2010s. After Russia invaded Ukraine, the company's management started a new company and moved all their employees and IP over to it to escape the Russian ownership.

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VortexLain 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Russian Aurora OS was an official Sailfish OS offspring, focused on MDM devices, but Sailfish cut ties with Aurora in 2022, after the Russia-Ukraine war has emerged. It's now developed independently of Sailfish, although they share the same code since the codebase was unified before the split.

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dijit 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jesus christ, what is this FUD?

I know the people behind SailfishOS, they’re not like, friends or anything: just ex-Nokia developers who got fucked by Microsoft (like I did, btw, which is how I know of them).

I feel like the big tech smartphone duopoly would have a reason to spread such rubbish, but its so patently obvious that I doubt they are so stupid.

	▲	etdznots 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It’s a sensitive topic for the US because it is an an EU-backed and funded project to move away from US tech, which undermines US interests globally. which is why you might see some unusually intense anger/vitriol hurled their way and Goebbels-level fabrications
	▲	TiredOfLife 2 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jolla "It acquired new investors in 2016, among them the Russian company Votron. In March 2018 they were joined by Rostelecom (which is state owned) as investor, which took over Votron and OMP." Note that was after 2014 russian invasion into Ukraine.

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g-b-r 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You mean that GrapheneOS has ties to Russia? https://ised-isde.canada.ca/cc/lgcy/fdrlCrpDtls.html?p=0&cor...

(I actually couldn't find information on their nationality, they might be e.g. Ukrainian or second-generation Russian immigrants; Micay is somewhat Russian-sounding too, btw, although I think he's known to have been born in Canada).

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microtonal 3 hours ago | parent [-]

No, Jolla. They worked with the Russian government. But they cut ties even before the 2022 invasion:

https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/plea-for-official-statement-f...

	▲	iamnothere 27 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		GrapheneOS also does, as does iOS (Jobs visited the USSR on July 4th of all days) and Android (Sergey Brin is of Russian descent). The FSB is likely reading over your shoulder as we speak. Also, have you checked your closets lately?