| ▲ | dpoloncsak 4 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not familiar here, but if both the publishers and readers are unhappy, why do these services still exist? Is it the 'prestige' of being published with some of these guys? Or do you need to be published for xyz reasons? Seems like, in 2026, we can have direct publishing without the need of these services? Is it the infra, like query tools and such, that prevent a migration away? edit: I'm not going to reply to every comment, but thank you all, helps paint the picture a bit better for me! | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ACCount37 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Publishing is how scientists get their street cred. Thus, the scientists themselves want to publish in big name journals to up their rep - hitting something like Nature is major coup. And then they can convert their standing in the big science gang to things like research grants, commercial projects, academic tenures, etc. If you don't care about how science street cred works, nothing stops you from just throwing your papers up on arxiv. But then you get no publishing rep. And no visibility either. A big name journal in a given field gets eyes on your paper by default - but in the pits of arxiv, if you don't put your work out there yourself in the circles, no one will see it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | bluGill 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
(read the other replies first, I'm going to assume you understand that first!) There are a lot of researchers writing papers. In many fields it isn't possible to read them all, so you need someone to make a selection of what is useful. Get into Nature any "everyone" will read your paper because it is important. However if you fail that you only get into a small niche publication - the only people who will read your paper are people who search it out - likely because they are in that tiny niche (and have personally met you to discuss this niche at a conference). There are even lower grades up publications which nobody reads, but in theory someone could find it in a search. What physics papers should a chemist read? If you are a physicist you should be reading more papers, but there are still too many to read them all so you need a selection, but that selection should bias to others working on similar problems to you. The same applies for every other field: you can't know everything so you need someone to apply a selection to tell you what is important for you to know. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bruckie 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A lot of academic reputation, as well as performance evaluation (for example toward tenure) is based on being published in "prestigious" journals. If you could fix that problem, I suspect the parasitic journals would evaporate overnight. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | DiogenesKynikos 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Because the journal is a stamp of approval, and scientists are measured almost exclusively through their publication record. Getting a paper accepted by Nature can make a career. It's easy for anyone to publish papers online, but it's very difficult for a journal to build credibility and reputation. If you publish in some random journal no one has ever heard of, everyone will assume your paper couldn't get through peer review at a "real" journal. That's why the established journals exist. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||