Anyone can claim they are profitable, simply by reclassifying their expenses as some other thing or shuffling them to separate corporate structure. Until we will real financial audit, the CEOs claims are just a hot air.

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usef- 9 hours ago | parent [-]

OpenAI's leaked documents also said OpenAI was profitable on inference. The small resellers of open models have nowhere near the resources to optimise their models or inference and yet usually have a lower cost, why wouldn't the big labs?

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Yizahi 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That is exactly the document I've been thinking about while writing top comment :) . Oh, our "cost of revenue" is smaller than the revenue, we are so profitable guys! If we just don't count our marketing expenses, our administrative expenses, and our unspecified losses from operations to the tune of x3 times higher than our revenue. But if we don't count them we are totally profitable guys! If we will just stop all RnD and also stop paying our salaries, support and marketing departments (and also cut 20 billion of operational losses too, whatever that is) we will earn soo soo much monies guys!

	▲	LUmBULtERA 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Fair to include A&G, but their marketing and training cost is about generating future growth. People say that the subscriptions are highly subsidized as if its fact -- it's certainly not a well-established fact. These people simply don't know the truth one way or another, but portray their not well supported opinion as fact.

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rightbyte 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The leak really doesn't say that. We have no way of knowing what posts are in the different categories.