| ▲ | pydry 11 hours ago |
| Probably won't be too long before the government decides to block deepseek's website based on "security" concerns. |
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| ▲ | sharpshadow 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It’s in the doing with the DAAMT Act and soon foreign AI companies will be on the entity list. Circumvent this sanctions and count with assets forfeiture, civil penalty and criminal prosecution. This will eliminate access to Deepseek and so on overnight. Cherry on top most westerners will face similar problems due to secondary sanctions. |
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| ▲ | LUmBULtERA 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Deepseek's models are open-weight and hosted all over the world, how would blocking deepseek's web sight do anything to stop its model's use? |
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| ▲ | sharpshadow 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | Deepseek will be sanctioned and therefore no provider will offer it anymore. Only way to use it then will be private but even that will be forbidden if it gets classified as threat to national security. | | |
| ▲ | kamaal 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | >>Deepseek will be sanctioned and therefore no provider will offer it anymore. That is possible inside the US. How do you do it all over the world? You have to convince every country in the world not use frontier models? Even worse how do you convince all the countries to not build their own models? | | |
| ▲ | sharpshadow 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | You are correct that it’s inside the US and it doesn’t apply to the whole world. But it will apply to the western world and much further which trades in dollar because else secondary sanctions apply. The shocking number is roughly 175-180 countries of 193 follow along US sanctions, that’s 90%.
Unlike in the US the citizens of those countries will not be prosecuted for circumventing the sanctions but assets like bank accounts and wallets may be seized and Visa issues may arise.
With the already ongoing legislation against foreign AI players and the recent national security threat assessment it strongly looks like just a matter of time until they implement the mechanics to sanction any disfavored AI. This will flush most users back to US companies.
With the limited self hosting options and insanely strong export limits for datacenters it’s already established that countries can’t build their own models with the same power. |
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| ▲ | Mashimo 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Who is "The government"? China or your local one? |
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| ▲ | IsTom 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| And then USA will have a disadvantage compared to rest of the world with cheaper LLMs and american AI companies will have tougher time surviving on domestic spend alone. |
