Only Framework could reincarnate godawful PCMCIA cards as proprietary USB-C dongles and be praised for it. Insanity. Maybe next they can bring back the XJACK.

No one wants to address the elephant in the room: it's a crap design for proprietary modules. Sure the design is open, can you use them anywhere else? Nope.

You're paying a premium for USB-C dongles that can't be used on any other brand of laptop. Apple is probably upset they didn't think of it first.

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gobelet 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Of course you can use the modules on any other brand of laptop. It's not going to look pretty doing it, but I've routinely used the USB-C to USB-A, as well as the mini SSD, on a MacBook Pro.

Colleagues borrow them all the time when they need a SD card or MicroSD card reader. Is it as pretty as a dedicated reader for those cards? No, but it does the job.

Saying they're proprietary is misleading a bit. The form factor makes it awkward to use elsewhere but they work just fine anywhere you plug them into.

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naturalmovement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is not mechanically fit for purpose.

You can likewise put 26" rims on a Ford Fiesta but it will look and function equally poorly.

	▲	Dylan16807 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Slap on a 4 inch extension cable and it's not meaningfully worse than any other dongle.

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sourcegrift a minute ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I understand your disdain for fandom but in this case this isn't a product by framework. This is a 3d part product resulting from framework's basic motivation and associated actions of nurturing a 3rd party ecosystem. I don't like fandom but we can admit framework's theoretical raison d'etre is pretty good

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Patryk27 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don’t follow - how are modules based on USB-C proprietary?

My Framework ethernet dongle works perfectly fine with a Mac that I use for work, for instance.

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naturalmovement 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I knew someone would ask this.

It is mechanically disagreeable.

The weight/shape of the module will break the USB-C port in short order because it is solely supported by the connector.

For instance, by bumping the spatula hanging off your Mac.

For that matter, USB-C are crap connectors, I don't care how many graphs and BS data you show me stating they're the most reliable connector ever. I do not believe it.

They're the only types of connectors I've seen damaged repeatedly, and the only one with which I've personally experienced damage, and I've been using laptops since before many of you were born.

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Patryk27 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So you’re saying the modules have a suboptimal design for non-Framework laptops.

Sure. But this does not make them proprietary, they work fine with non-Framework laptops as well.

	▲	naturalmovement 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I'm not getting into a well ackshually argument over this. Can you slide them into a just-sized mechanical receptacle on a MacBook? On a Dell, HP, etc. No.