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gchamonlive 4 hours ago

Who'd have guessed hitting the library would become an act of rebellious defiance

OnionBlender 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How is hitting the library an act of rebellious defiance? Getting a library card requires an ID and proof of address. The library then tracks which books you've signed out. Unless you're reading the books inside the library without signing them out.

EvanAnderson 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My library, at least, is fanatical about their patron's privacy.

I don't know what their retention time is on circulation records, but beyond aggregate statistics for culling materials that aren't circulating I bet it isn't too long. Now I want to go check.

My library also only keeps 24 hours of video surveillance because they didn't want to be able to fulfill requests from the cops for footage of patrons. I really liked that.

Edit: In the patron portal it permits me to disable "borrowing history" and says it permanently deletes my records. I do contract IT work for them so next time I'm engaged I'll ask about the details. They're moving to Koha later this year (free / open-source ILS) so I could go look at the code to see what it does (which is nice).

On the theme of their privacy fanaticism:

Over a decade ago the library got a grant to do outdoor public WiFi in the park behind their building. As part of that grant they needed to report the number of distinct users using the WiFi each day. Their UniFi controller tracks MAC addresses of associated stations. I used a query against the underlying MongoDB to get the usage reports to satisfy the grant.

To minimize the potential of tracking individual users the library director had me write a script to grovel thru MongoDB, do a SHA-1 hash of each public MAC address tracked concatenated with a randomly-generated salt for that day, then write back the first 48 bits of the hash over the original MAC. The library gets their daily statistics and long-term traffic trend data, they don't double-count associations for the same device in the same day, but they can't track individual people over a span of multiple days.

Now that devices randomly-generating MACs are mainstream it's much less necessary. I thought it was really cool she thought this. (The whole salting/hashing bit was my idea. She just wanted to be able to fulfill the grant reporting requirements amd be unable to track people.)

HoldOnAMinute 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Start your own library.

Write your own books.

Make your own music.

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StanislavPetrov 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My library card has no picture on it. Me and 100 of my closest friends could easily share the same card.

nathan_compton 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm pretty sure I didn't provide an address or an id when I got my library card.

Ifkaluva 4 hours ago | parent [-]

In the US? I think you most likely need to provide proof of an address

ghaff 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm pretty sure I had to provide some proof of residency for a library card from my town or state in the US.

gchamonlive 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What if you are homeless? Can you at least sit and read there?

Ifkaluva 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Certainly, but I think you need to have a library card to use the computers.

I do see folks who look homeless using the computers, so I assume there must be a special accommodation for them.

But, if you’re just a regular middle class joe looking for anonymity on the internet, I don’t think the library is the place for you—it’s tied to your library card which knows your address, and anyway what would you want to be private that you would be ok to broadcast in an open library setting? Nobody watching corn or browsing whatever successor to Silk Road.

Usually the login screen says something about fairly restrictive terms of use, even for the WiFi on a personal device, and I don’t know if you can install software on the library computers.

When I look around at library patrons using the computers, it’s usually lower income folks applying to jobs or similar, and people playing chess.

Geezus_42 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You can. You just have to ignore all the privileged people being annoyed that they have to see you. They love posting on Nextdoor about how much they hate homeless people.

__MatrixMan__ 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you know any librarians? Public libraries have always been a bit punk rock.

jazz9k 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Punk rock has always been right wing. Libraries are about as far from this as they can get.

jplusequalt 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

>Punk rock has always been right wing.

What???

krapp 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The anti-authoritarian, anti-government, anti-fascist, anti-capitalist music genre punk rock? Always right wing?

I mean, Nazis have always been attracted to punk because they like the loud noise but are too stupid to understand lyrics, but they tend to get their shit kicked in by punks more often than not. I don't think that's the same thing.

jplusequalt 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've seen a lot of confidently incorrect takes on this site, but "punk rock is right wing" may be the worst.

TheRoque 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In your country maybe.. In mine it's super boring and intellectual

derwiki 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

The punk rock is? I would be interested in checking that out! (/s)