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GeoAtreides 2 hours ago

oh hey, per HN terms and conditions I license my HN data only to HN. Can you please remove my data from the set? Thank you!

snowwrestler 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not sure if joking, but if this product is not republishing the text of your contributions (to which you hold copyright), you’re probably not going to convince a court to do anything here.

Generally speaking it is not a violation to scrape, index, and analyze web content as long as you don’t republish copyrighted content without a license, or violate access controls. For example: search engine indexes.

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed.

@zX41ZdbW, you can safely ignore this guy.

@GeoAtreides, next time read the actual terms of service before hallucinating.

codingdave 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> for any Y Combinator-related purpose

That is actually the key phrase. HN can provide the API, no problem. People can consume the API, no problem.. But I'd ask an attorney if API consumers can then re-release the data for purposes not related to YC. By my reading, they cannot.

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You might want to read it again, then:

https://opensource.org/license/mit

codingdave 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That is about the software, not the data.

moralestapia an hour ago | parent [-]

While a literal reading of the MIT license refers to "software", many datasets have been released under it.

In particular, if someone releases something that is only a dataset along with an MIT license file, the most reasonable interpretation is that the rights holder intended to release the data under the terms of that license.

I looked for copyright cases involving this specific distinction, whether "data" versus "software" makes a legal difference, but didn’t find anything.

So the question remains open (for you, for me it's pretty clear the dataset is released under MIT).

You might want to sue and find out. It sounds like an interesting experiment.

GeoAtreides 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>Y Combinator and its affiliated companies

is zX41ZdbW either?

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Oh, now I see my comment might be a bit harsh.

I didn't consider you might now know about:

https://github.com/hackernews/api

GeoAtreides 2 hours ago | parent [-]

yes, and per HN terms and conditions only YC and YC affiliated (as you quoted) can use the api legally. I don't license my content to anyone else and so it shouldn't be use by anyone else, even if it's available on a free-for-all API (nice move HN, btw).

moralestapia 2 hours ago | parent [-]

https://github.com/HackerNews/API/blob/master/LICENSE

It's right there, you just have to click the link I shared ...

GeoAtreides an hour ago | parent [-]

that's the license for the API, not the content/data the API serves

jupr an hour ago | parent [-]

>including without limitation the rights to use

'use'...arguably the sole purpose of the API is to fetch the data.

You are grasping at straws.

fartcoin67 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

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linmer 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait, so I have to ask for every single person's permissions to use this data?

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

pelagicAustral 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You must be fun at parties