You mean the same phones that we own less and less with each passing day? I cannot even turn off OS updates anymore. Is it even my phone if I can't do whatever I want with it?

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infecto 10 hours ago | parent [-]

What does this have to do with this thread? Go buy any other device then. My point is the doom and gloom is overblown, we have massively powerful devices already, no dark age is coming.

This has no bearing on your perception of ownership of your mobile device.

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ngai_aku 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You think the state of personal computing is a-ok because most people have smart phones. Others pointing out the very real limitations of what you can do on those phones seems highly relevant.

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gonzalohm 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How is it not related? You are saying that we have massive powerful devices (smartphones) that can take over personal computing. I'm telling you that for you to be able to do "personal computing" you need a device that you own and can modify/run whatever you want.

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jauntywundrkind 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Pixels (and Motorolas now?) are nearly the only devices left with unlocked bootloaders.

And thanks to Google Play Integrity, even if you do liberate your device from megacorp control, you still don't get to actually use it.

"Go buy any other device" is not working out. (There should be some laws to rectify this, imo.)

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