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tavavex 12 hours ago

Anyone else here enjoy living in the future? Look at us, we get AI megacorporations ruling the world and bestowing us with the power to use their servers for just $20-200/month. It's practically charity, and all we had to give up for it is all consumer hardware, the quality of the internet and our own jobs. I love it here!

HDBaseT 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I know this is a bit off topic, but is anyone excited for the future?

I'm only 20, but everyone used to talk about how excited they were for the future. I don't know anyone who is excited for the future.

It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc.

I only see it getting significantly worse too. It's hard not to fall into the trap of doomerism but what is the point anymore?

flumpcakes 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm a bit older than you, I can remember the late 90s and the early 2000s as a child: the future was so exciting.

I now feel the same as you (despite being a bit older), the future looks depressing as hell. It seems to me that things are just progressively getting noticeably worse in the last 10 years or so.

throwup238 an hour ago | parent [-]

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toasterlovin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

With all due respect, we have pills for obesity and computers think. If that doesn’t get you excited about the future, nothing will.

atomicnumber3 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Ok cool. Computers think. They're (trying to) use that to literally replace regular people. And not in a Star Trek way. "Permanent underclass" way. That's bad.

I would rather we not have technology than have people starving en masse. Literally our best hope is that the rich bastards are lying that they'll be able to do it to scam other rich bastards.

When I was in high school we were able to have an app that made it look like you were drinking beer. And the internet produced rainbow unicorn attack and nyan cat.

I was very optimistic about nyan cat. I'm very unoptimistic about nobody being able to afford computers for the next 5+ years.

Also since this thread is about general malaise - I am finding myself rather missing GW Bush's jovial brand of imperialism and cronyism. Strange fate.

Nifty3929 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am super excited for the future! Medical advancements are accelerating, fusion power is on the horizon, space travel is exciting again. This is really an amazing moment in human history.

I think we really can conquer cancer, Alzheimer's and maybe even senescence in the next 20-30 years.

stouset 2 hours ago | parent [-]

That’ll all be really cool if you’re in the 5% of the planet that can afford it.

bobsomers 2 hours ago | parent [-]

5% is awfully optimistic! More like the 0.01%.

zythyx 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was excited about the future...

I've always been a tech nerd, from my first Gameboy in 1998 when I was 10, to my first PC, then getting all sorts of gadgets and upgrades. Always an early adopter to many things, even social media and AI. I was basically a day 1 adopter of Facebook when it became available worldwide. I was there before Gangnam Style hit the 313 YouTube views limit (I was the 214th watcher)

Tesla was a brand I was fully on board with and planning as my first 'new' car. I loved the idea of self-driving cars (mainly because I hate driving). But then Elon became a menace and I had no interest in what would have been my dream car. It still is, and I would easily buy if Elon didn't have his name attached.

Technology has SO MUCH potential today, more so than in the past. But EVERYTHING these days from MBAs: If it doesn't make money, it gets dropped. It all has a subscription, not a one-off purchase. Every tiny thing has a cost of business involved. Games are no longer about having fun, they're about how much money or activity can I extract from the player (yes, even the indie experience is tainted: buy off Steam and 30% of that purchase goes to the platform for just existing).

The future with AI is ultimately the untimely demise of creativeness. And it will be shoved down our throats, and we will thank them (the ruling class) for it.

johnfn 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It is astounding to me that people are not excited for the future. I live in a moment in time where I can ask AI to do something and it can think about it rationally, work on it for an hour, and basically do what I want. This is incredible and amazing.

teaearlgraycold 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I’m optimistic, but I’ve been like 99th percentile lucky.

archagon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am excited for the counterculture movements that will emerge in opposition to the slopified mainstream. There will be some truly weird art and technology coming from this sphere. And we’re right on the vanguard.

danans 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It upsets me I never got to live the "glory days" of cars, technology, outdoor activities, music, entertainment, etc.

The best is ahead for your generation - you just need to create it from grass roots. I mean actually "Think different" instead of what Apple and the others marketed to you. Take back power and culture from the centralized corporations and taste-makers that feed/market their slop to you. Reclaim tools. Reclaim community. Don't seek salvation in consumerism - it's what got us here.

HDBaseT 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Whilst true, its your generation who got us here. I didn't have the choice (or agency) to make decisions and changes to fight back against the silo'ing of all digital spaces, ownership, and freedoms.

I think its incredibly easy to say "You just need to do everything yourself" when you put us here. When you lived the free life before, your fulfillment is mostly met, even if it does go down hill from here since you lived through some of the best eras of human history.

danans 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> Whilst true, its your generation who got us here.

You are right, and you have a right to resent what many in the previous generation did (or tacitly ignored) to get us here.

> I think its incredibly easy to say "You just need to do everything yourself" when you put us here.

Don't do it yourself. Do it with others.

> When you lived the free life before, your fulfillment is mostly met, even if it does go down hill from here since you lived through some of the best eras of human history.

Don't mistake the illusion of freedom sold to previous generations through consumerism (which I'm inferring from your initial comments referencing all kinds of consumable things previous generations had).

Today, we have incredibly freeing technologies that were unimaginable generations earlier, like for example, distributed carbon-free energy generation and storage.

The best things you will do will be to rebuild a better world than the ones your predecessors left you, and it will be way cooler than our gas guzzlers and Gameboys ever were.

maipen 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The "worst" part of this comment, is that it's not even exaggeration. In the last 6 months, my competition increased 5x. People that didn't have the skills to compete, now do. My margins will keep shrinking while hardware and servers gets more expensive.

It's a fucking miserable future for us software people.

Architecting and "good taste" won't be good enough to put food on the table next year...

ChadNauseam 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It might be miserable for you, but it sounds great for your customers. I am genuinely sympathetic though.

devsda 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A healthy competition is always good for the customer but I have my doubts on the healthy part.

A flood of fly by night products with low effort mess is going to lower the trust in genuine indie development products and could drive users towards established names in the industry.

In some way it's like the new PR flood on github. On the surface more PRs looks like a positive thing but it had unintended consequences.

qlte 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Like the famous Market for Lemons, where a similar information asymmetry produces market failure that ends up making things worse for both buyers and sellers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons

1123581321 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

New signals of trustworthiness will emerge (are already emerging.)

More shots at the big names is not going to entrench them, even if most of those shots don't go anywhere.

The big names also need to stay competitive against internally developed solutions inside what would have been their bread-and-butter enterprise customers, so they have to compete on features and quality like indies.

downrightmike 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Now we have 100 fly by night vendors! Awesome!

usef- 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

Reputation will matter more than ever before

sajithdilshan 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure if your comment is supposed to be sarcastic, if not, it’s totally narcissistic. I hope in next 6 months your competition would increase 10x

hijodelsol 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

While I understand both of your perspectives, please think about how frustrating it can be to have poured years into building a product genuinely solving a problem and building a relationship with clients only for a dozens AI copy cats to come in. Even if your product is clearly better, the SEO slop alone will raise your marketing cost, price cutting will affect you as not all clients are able to tell quality before purchase or will know of your project, etc. And in the end, everyone is worse of. We get less for the products we build. Customers in many cases get a worse solution. And the AI copy cats multiply until none of them can make a living from it.

sajithdilshan 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If your product is really good, then people will choose it over AI copy cats. If that’s not the case then it’s time to take a really hard look at your product and see if that’s really as good as you think

satvikpendem 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Exactly. People on a forum dedicated to a VC should know that disruption happens everywhere, AI just makes it easier but it's been happening for a long time, that is the nature of startups in general.

bigyabai 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> And in the end, everyone is worse of.

I don't know, it really depends on the product. If we were all still paying for proprietary UNIX in the current year, then it's likely that these startups would never exist in the first place. Sometimes a SAAS has to admit that it's not providing real value before actual innovation becomes the status quo. I don't weep many tears for dying businesses because nobody lives forever.

ComplexSystems 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The guy is genuinely worried for his future. I see nothing shameful or narcissistic about that, and I don't think it makes sense for you to wish him any harm.

sajithdilshan 4 hours ago | parent [-]

He is not worried about his future, he’s just mad the competition is catching up to him and his superior complex. It definitely make sense to wish him more competition to humble him

akudha 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

He/She is literally talking putting food on the table and yet you are interpreting it as superiority complex. I am not sure if we are even reading the same comment here.

Also, competition in itself not bad. It does mess people's livelihoods when competition is sudden and massive - he/she mentioned 5x increase in competition in 6 months. That is too much, too fast, it is not easy navigating/surviving it

viccis 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Most people work to survive, not for the sheer joy of delivering value to company stakeholders.

moscoe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You will own nothing and be happy

Danox 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

For most that hit the treadmill at 18 that may be true because the rat race starts then, live within your means save and invest start early or else or you will be left standing scratching your head later in life...

Theodores 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sometimes I look at dystopian futures from literature and wonder what the problem is.

I suspect some might prefer 1984 for the stability, some might prefer Brave New World for the Soma and some might prefer Wall-E because life looks good with B+L.

throwaway-11-1 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wish I could shake the hidden hand in gratitude

Traubenfuchs 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Welcome to the cyberpunk future.

Daz912 33 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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ChadNauseam 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I would never want to compel someone else to buy services from me if they had a better option available. My goal is to make money by contributing to society, not force others to pay me for services they don't want from me. If AI makes it so programmers aren't needed anymore, well, I had a good run and made good money while it lasted. I'll find something else productive to do.

LeBit 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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