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verdverm 5 hours ago

The same Pew poll had some interesting data points Krugman left out

- The first data point Pew presents is ~50% of Americans use Ai chat bots

- The second data point shows 25% of those using it is for fun and entertainment (1:8 overall)

- 1/4 of Americans use it daily

Krugman lost me when he said "Ai is dishonest" as if it has intent. He makes too much rage bait these days.

saratogacx an hour ago | parent | next [-]

English really doesn't have a good way of broadly saying "lack of a trait" that isn't "adverse to a trait". In coding we have to have specific terms for lack thereof that is distinct from "vale of zero of".

Discourse, especially around things like AI could benefit from having a term like nullhonest to enforce it is a lack of honesty as an associated concept instead of having zero honesty.

verdverm 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

English has that for some words, like apathetic, but I would still hesitate from musing that word for Ai's "apathy" to facts and correctness.

queenkjuul 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"regularly gives you a completely bogus answer while loudly and confidently asserting it's true" might be behavior that convinces you a person is dishonest. Is it really that bad of a description if AI does the same?

verdverm 4 hours ago | parent [-]

yes, because it humanizes software

https://susam.net/inverse-laws-of-robotics.html

Ai is highly non-deterministic by design, it's a core feature that gives it the capabilities and drawbacks. Don't expect it to be accurate, stay HIL my friends

queenkjuul 4 hours ago | parent [-]

You suspect Paul Krugman and the rest of the lay public is familiar with this?

verdverm 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It is our job to educate our friends and family

Otherwise they are going to get bad notions from people like Krugman

intended 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you are drawing a line in the sand that is close to you, but very far away from where Krugman stands, for it to be a fair distance to cross.

verdverm 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

I've seen plenty of Krugman to recognize he's part of the political bipolariztion media ecosystem replacing trad news. I used to consume a lot of that group until I realized they are as much a part of the problem as the right wingers.

Both sides are about winning at all costs and dominating others. Politics should be about compromise, give and take. The real fight is against the oligarchs and Trump-Epstein class.