| ▲ | simianwords 2 hours ago |
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| ▲ | arrrg 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| It‘s the exact opposite of selfish. It’s solidarity and efforts to denigrate solidarity and lift up stories about selfishness as the only important thing are the thing that keeps unions down. Workers working together in solidarity is the right approach to get more power in the lopsided power dynamic between owners and workers. Owners have too much power, workers too little. Solidarity is a path towards fixing that. |
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| ▲ | simianwords 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You think it’s solidarity with the workers because you see it is a fight between two classes. I reject that framework itself. Unions are about solidarity (if any) for the incumbents and in this case it is solidarity for the existing workers in Wikimedia. I don’t see anything virtuous about self preservation. It doesn’t take much for a person to save their own job. What’s virtuous is the ability to do understand the free market and uphold meritocracy ESPECIALLY when you aren’t the top dog in the hierarchy. Unions may protect jobs but does it at the expense of other people who want your jobs who can do it better at a lower wage. Do people have the virtue to voluntarily give up their job for that person who is better than them? I don’t think so. So please spare me the bit about solidarity! |
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| ▲ | chpatrick 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That's like saying not wanting to work 14 hours a day in a coal mine is selfish because it's at the expense of global prosperity. |
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| ▲ | gbanfalvi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| “Global prosperity” is a good one. How is global prosperity achieved? Business owners get all the profits of our labor and maybe some of it trickles down? Workers get “prosperous” on crumbs? I’ll be expectantly awaiting for my prosperity in the mail. |
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| ▲ | simianwords 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You think global prosperity was won by unions fighting for rights? This is untrue and a folk theory that people hold on to, to justify their ideology. Primarily global prosperity was achieved by higher productivity - the ability to do more with less work. Unions had very less to do for increasing productivity. I’m not saying anything extreme because this is the academic consensus. |
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| ▲ | irl_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think this may be a US thing, in the UK at least unions work to promote solidarity. |
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| ▲ | babagan0ush 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| this comment is satire right? |
