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happyopossum 8 hours ago

> Healthy people spend roughly 15-25 days each year—about 5% of their lives—sick with respiratory infections like the common cold and influenza

This seems completely unbelievable to me. Totally outside of my personal, professional, and family experience.

atomicnumber3 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No kids eh?

My oldest starting preschool was one of the worst times in my life. We were sick from august to december, then january to may. Dreadful.

It got better. My youngest is 3 now and is ahead of where my oldest was due to having 2 older siblings importing illnesses for several years, and this year we finally were mostly not sick all school year. Which is to say, we were probably closer to the 15 days "materially sick" mark. I say materially sick to mean, definitely sick, though perhaps not taken out of school (due to not technically being outside of the health exclusion policy, and sometimes I only realize they were "materially" sick after they got home instead of just "passably sick given kids will basically have a lingering cough from august to may).

ptsneves 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For me personally, I never was so sick in my life as when my children were between starting nursery school and 3. It was not just respiratory diseases: It was also the time in my life I and my wife had frequent digestive infections. Ohh my...How many times I could not move for 2 days. It felt like I was 80 years old, mixed with the hardest symptoms of food poisoning.

I got sick so often it limited a lot my general life: I stopped practicing sports regularly and started being very careful with sleep(sleep deprivation likely increased the chance of infection), because I knew if I did not lead a perfectly balanced lifestyle I would get sick. I am quite upset I stopped running 15km per week, even with snow. I never fully went back to it, due to fear of getting sick, and having to take care of toddlers while being feverish or nauseated.

In those years I think I was not disease free more than 3 months at a time. In a year where many people decide to not have children, it does not help the cause of having children seeing other parents suffer so much, in those early years. I have non parent friends that get sick after meeting us, resenting meeting us and asking if we are sick, because they spent all the night in the bathroom or with fever. Fortunately it feels we are already immune because we are not sick very often anymore.

helpfulmandrill an hour ago | parent [-]

> I never fully went back to it, due to fear of getting sick

Does running long distance increase the chance of getting sick?

mixmastamyk 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This happened to us too, until I heard the podcast about Vitamin D. Nipped that in the bud almost immediately.

jdkoeck 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This is Linus Pauling all over again.

morbicer 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't care what was "disproven" or if it's a placebo.

I raised vitamin D intake in winter, I take betaglucans and if I feel like I am starting to get under the weather I take 2-3g of vitamin C per day.

Since we started that, no colds or flus for me or my wife and we have a kindergarten kid.

leptons 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I heard about vitamin D during covid, and that and hand sanitizer are the only 2 things we still do. I haven't been sick for a few years. Before covid (and vitamin D supplements), it was at least 25 days sick every year, if not more.

eloox 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What's that? Any particular dosage?

veunes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Kids don't just get sick, they seem to turn the whole house into a slow-motion relay race of viruses

JoshTriplett 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This sounds roughly normal for what I came to expect back when I worked in an office with many people who had school-age kids. I had a colleague who wryly referred to his kids as "my little plague carriers".

When I stopped working in an office, I almost completely stopped getting sick.

puttycat 5 hours ago | parent [-]

+1 for office work as disease source. Plus taking public transport (mostly underground trains). Today I avoid the subway almost completely, taking my bike almost everywhere, to avoid getting sick during winter. (No kids though)

tibbar 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unbelievable in which direction?

I've had years in which most people in my immediate surroundings were sick for weeks or months (likely exacerbated by mold, school, and travel). Also years in which I never really got sick at all.

Getting sick that often is pretty debilitating.

j4k0bfr 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This feels about right to me. Living with kids and commuting via public transport (in a country where face masks are not common) might break 5%.

lokar 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Are you reading “sick” as so ill that you can’t carry out your normal routine? I think they mean any symptoms.

Someone 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> I think they mean any symptoms.

I think so, too. The referenced article (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...) says:

“Every year, in the USA, about 25 million people visit their family doctors with uncomplicated upper respiratory infections, and the common cold syndrome results in about 20 million days of absence from work and 22 million days of absence from school.”

That makes 44 million days of absence on a population of 340 million, or about one day for every 7½ citizens.

Even assuming healthy people are as susceptible to that as the general population and assuming 50% of those that get ill will work, anyways, out of financial necessity, that still is a far cry from “Healthy people spend roughly 15-25 days each year […] sick”

That paper also has a graph showing Mean annual incidence of respiratory illnesses by age group. Eyeballing it (ignoring size differences between age groups) I get at an average of about 3 infections. If each takes a week, that gets you to those 15-25 days.

veunes 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I guess it depends a lot on what they count as sick. I definitely don't spend 3 weeks a year in bed, but if you add up all the random sore throats, congestion, coughs that linger for a week and "not really sick but clearly fighting something" days, it may be less crazy than it sounds

fhars 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, that number is probably too low by a factor of two or so.

kakacik an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No its correct, having 2 kids and rate of sickness went through the roof, same for my wife.

We also had 10+ covids to indicate how much it changes, mostly imported by kids from creche (we hit the 'right' timing with them and covid waves). What do you expect when they shared pacifiers and put fingers in mouths all the time. Or suddenly sneezing gunk all over my face when holding them.

Before kids, I was usually sick 1x a year for few days, or had 1 proper flu week and that was it, my wife even less. No it didn't visibly improve our immunity, had covid last autumn and it felt almost like for the first time, sans loss of smell and taste.

mberning 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For my family of 5 w/ school age children I would say that is a pretty reasonable estimate, maybe even a bit low for us. There are levels of “sick” though and I would say for us most respiratory illnesses are very mild and are a minor annoyance. Where it becomes more menacing is when we have sick kids and sick parents at the same time.

MBlume 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would love to move to whatever planet you're living on. To me the estimate seems low.

throwawaytea 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Healthy lifestyle and food have a huge part. I date teachers a lot, and I've taken several people from constantly sick to almost never sick for 1+ year by just changing food and not going out to bars. I know this sounds like a random flippant comment, but I've done it enough times and consistently enough that I have no doubt personally.