> Whether if it is true or not

If it was just "that easy" then I doubt only "Chinese models" would be doing it and we'd already be packed with competition.

Distilling might be a thing but it isn't a free win.

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skeledrew 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Only China really has the resources (multiple labs invested in the space), culture (Asians are generally collectively-inclined, so sharing is in their core) and political bent (there will be no diplomatic repercussions) to put up a fight.

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re-thc an hour ago | parent [-]

> Only China really has the resources (multiple labs invested in the space)

That's not the point. Why is it a country thing? There are plenty of non-China startups in this space having resources at that scale. The "China" has resources is some "Western media narrative" speak. So Meta should have won a long time ago? Or xAI?

> culture (Asians are generally collectively-inclined, so sharing is in their core)

Just stereotype it? So we've gone from China -> "Asian"? Then where is your Korean or Japanese model etc? And somehow you know they're sharing.

> political bent (there will be no diplomatic repercussions) to put up a fight

More inferring from "Western media news"?

Where's the reality?

The media hyped up Gemini / Google TPU free-win last year. How did that go?

	▲	skeledrew 31 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> Why is it a country thing? Because the China vs US geopolitical situation is a thing. Meta is a social media company, not an AI company, and they direct their focus as such. xAI just never got serious traction so now they're selling their compute. Also if a US company were caught distilling, I think Anthropic could actually take them to court, and I'd guess they don't want that kind of PR. > Just stereotype it? Is China not Asian? Are Asians not generally collective/cooperative, as opposed to individualistic/competitive? The "and" that joined those 3 items is very important: it means you can't pull them apart and address them independently as they each contribute to the context. I'm not too sure about Korea, but in a way Japan is a US colony in all but name. Both are very much politically intertwined with the West (along with RoC/Taiwan), which means nothing major that may be against US interest happens. The reality is that China and the US are essentially in a trade war, where the latter is trying its best to keep the former in the Dark Ages, because "national security", but the former is refusing to take it lying down and continues to make progress regardless[0], because they have the resources and will. [0] https://thenextweb.com/news/china-lineshine-supercomputer-to...