If they use the defence production act, would Dario be even able to resign in protest?

AustinDev 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

If they wanted to officially take the weights the DPA would work and Dario could do nothing. If they wanted to do it in clandestine manner no one could stop them and no one would know. It's very likely they already have all the weights from all the frontier models. I mean all the frontier models are capable of being served from AWS Bedrock so the weights aren't exactly locked in some air-gapped vault.

It would be easy to make a national security justification to take the weights in a clandestine manner especially because Anthropic supposedly got caught giving China access to the model through a cutout.

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JackFr 3 days ago | parent [-]

Pretty sure even under DPA, taking without fair compensation would be a violation of the takings clause of 5th Amendment and wouldn't withstand legal scrutiny. If they wanted to get them clandestinely, yeah, they'd likely get away with it, but it is stealing.

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torstenvl 3 days ago | parent [-]

To be a taking, it would have to be property. Weights are almost certainly not property.

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Onavo 3 days ago | parent [-]

That's for the courts to decide.

	▲	torstenvl 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Correct. What makes you think existing case law doesn't apply to model weights?

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rurban 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

John Cook resigned, so Dario might resign also. But he would make it public, so they won't do it

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Onavo 3 days ago | parent [-]

> John Cook resigned

John Cook?

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dofm 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

He means John Apple I think.

	▲	antonvs 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		I think you mean Tim Mac

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rurban 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Oops, Tim Cook. Sorry