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ck2 3 days ago

they are doing DOGE-cuts to all of intelligence now anyway

dozens upon dozens fired for no reason

so US "intelligence" is going to go even further backwards

* https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-acting-ch...

November is going to be insanity

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derektank 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

The NSA is managed by the NSA director, an independently appointed and confirmed office separate from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The DNI does have the authority to restrict funds to the NSA, and sets certain priorities, policy, etc. but the NSA director is not beholden to the DNI and makes their hiring and firing decisions independently. They’re also, currently and historically though not required by statute, a flag officer in the US military and dual-hatted as the commander of CYBERCOM. All this is to say, chaos in the office of the DNI does not necessarily impact the NSA.

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dragontamer 3 days ago | parent [-]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tim-haugh-firing-trump-60-minut...

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derektank 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, the president can cause chaos in the NSA directly if he chooses (as can the SecDef). The DNI can’t.

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malshe 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Haugh was fired in April of this year after far-right activist Laura Loomer met with President Trump.

What kind of sick joke is that

	▲	dragontamer 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		An old forgotten joke despite being only a year old.

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kansface 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Here is one sector of the US government I'm happy to see burned down. If the alternative is the status quo, I'm OK with any roll of the dice.

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tempodox 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

It can always get worse.

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eigenspace 3 days ago | parent [-]

Pah! Nonsense. What could possibly be worse than Weimar Germany or Tsarist Russia?

	▲	baby_souffle 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Speed running through that to 1984?

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shimman 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You're assuming that they are "dismantling" it in a sense, what they are actually doing is mostly attacking workers while introducing extremely unsafe software. If you think LLMs are terrible, imagine it being the gatekeeper on whether your personal info is shared to an individual (and they ain't wasting time on the boring info either!).

When you want to reorient the government, it's much easier doing it with a smaller more loyal force. Now introduce tools that make mass surveillance easier and less accountable.

Like that's not a bad thing for them, that's what they want to do.

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Back to the article, I'm not shocked that a massive LLM company speed running into the brick wall that is the US government; just thought it would be OpenAI, but Sam Altman is truly the best bottom feeder the game.

Also fully believe that Anthropic is hoping that public sentiment is on their side but more Americans hate AI companies than Trump so it's not going to go how they want.

Give it maybe 3-6 months before the Trump Admin talks about openly nationalizing Anthropic.

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sailfast 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anecdata suggests NSA just got on board and kept going tbh. Not sure they’ve felt the same impacts / churn as other agencies, and not sure they’ve ever really been that beholden to the DNI.

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parineum 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> dozens upon dozens fired for no reason

When you say without reason do you mean without cause?

	▲	islandfox100 3 days ago \| parent [-]
		Seems to me OP's implication is that they were fired because someone wanted to hit a quota of (employees cut/payroll expenses reduced), or other similarly ''reasonless'' justifications.

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Computer0 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't want a single person to be working at NSA and I find ANY terms to effectuate that outcome to be acceptable. Very much so including DOGE, which I despise.