I'm not sure where you got these ideas. Do you have some recent data showing that EV batteries go to trash at all?

Sure, but it is all specific to the Leaf. And newer leafs apparently have good systems and won't have that problem.

The problem is we can only guess because we are talking about going to trash in 8-10 years, and most EVs are not near that old. Still signs are good.

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Schiendelman 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I think any EV or PHEV being trashed today has its battery recycled.

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bluGill 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Probably, but that is a difference concern. The concern here is the average car is 12 years old. If your battery only lasts 10 years, odds are the car is worse less after you replace the battery than the cost of a battery replacement. Thus the concern - if a battery only lasts 8-10 years that means there are less used cars for poor people to buy.

Fortunately it appears that only the leaf is destroying batteries that fast. Everything else we don't know how long a battery will last, but likely long enough that only collectors (who pour more money than the car is worth into it anyway) will care.

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Schiendelman 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I haven't met anyone who's replaced a battery yet. So far the batteries seem to outlast the car.

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bluGill 7 hours ago | parent [-]

Most EVs are not old enough to need a replacement so no surprise you haven't seen it.

I've seen places offering to do it to a leaf. However the cost is more than the leaf is worth by the time it needs it. I know a few people with a leaf that has half the factory range left and they just deal with it because the cost isn't worth it.

	▲	Schiendelman 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sure, it wasn't designed for it. But the battery still gets recycled.

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economistbob 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Talking the power company into taking it and calling that recycling is really just renaming the landfill location and making the electric customer's pay for it. Repurposing a failing piece of hardware is not recycling it.

	▲	Schiendelman 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Any data?