| ▲ | throw310822 a day ago | |
The Jewish majority is not an issue. The issue is that Israel is not "the state of the Israelis", it's the Jewish state. You can become an Israeli, you cannot become part of the ethno-religious group that the state is meant to represent. Not you and not any of your descendants, ever. > The issue is that if the demographics were flipped it would be unlikely to work This is a classic of Israeli propaganda: justifying an actual wrong (discrimination, apartheid, occupation, murder, you name it) with the allegation that a worse wrong would be committed by the other side. In other words, justifying actual crimes with imagined ones. > basically all of Jewish history in Muslim majority countries Jewish history in Muslim majority countries hasn't been worse than history in European and Christian countries. In many cases it was actually better. The Holocaust was perpetrated by Europeans, not by Muslims. | ||
| ▲ | jameshilliard 16 hours ago | parent [-] | |
> you cannot become part of the ethno-religious group that the state is meant to represent. Not you and not any of your descendants, ever. AFAIU Israel does accept conversions to Judaism so that's not actually accurate. > This is a classic of Israeli propaganda: justifying an actual wrong (discrimination, apartheid, occupation, murder, you name it) with the allegation that a worse wrong would be committed by the other side. I'm not justifying actual wrongs, however Israel giving citizenship to all individuals who claim to be Palestinians is unlikely to result in a good outcome. > In other words, justifying actual crimes with imagined ones. Just look at Palestinian opinion polling and it will become clear why giving citizenship to all Palestinians would likely result in a civil war. > Jewish history in Muslim majority countries hasn't been worse than history in European and Christian countries. Jews lived as second class citizens in Muslim majority countries. > In many cases it was actually better. That's not really saying much. > The Holocaust was perpetrated by Europeans, not by Muslims. Yet there are far more Jews living in Europe today than there are Jews living in MENA countries(excluding Israel). Maybe Europeans largely learned that their past behavior was wrong while those in MENA countries largely did not. | ||