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CalRobert 3 hours ago

Even now planners are forcing people to build horrible ovens that make no accounting for heat. The planners in Ireland laughed when I talked about over heating in our self built house due to lack of eaves.

asdff 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

People don't value design that cools. Most all the spanish style houses you see in California, if you go back to photos from when they were built in the 1920s they all had awnings over all the windows. Those awnings are basically extinct now. Some people are even painting their buildings dark colors. They will chop down shade trees too in a quest for "natural light" aka heat they are now mitigating with a noisy central AC the whole neighborhood gets to listen to now. No one understands cross breeze and opening windows either. Just run up the AC.

CalRobert an hour ago | parent [-]

True, though the places I lived in California (Sacramento, San Luis Obispo in particular) all had eaves. Covered patios were common too.

asdff 43 minutes ago | parent [-]

I feel eaves are more to keep the drip line from rain from hitting the foundation than for any heat abatement. Typical spanish style roof will not have anything on the side that isn't sloping for example. Just sort of ends flush with the wall. Some don't have any eaves at all really.

CalRobert 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

Strange then then places with lots of rain and wind (Ireland, Netherlands come to mind) hate eaves. I guess it keeps builders in business.

Ironically when I had a 200 year old thatched cottage it had 'eaves' by virtue of the thatch extending almost a meter from the wall. It had built up slowly over centuries of rethatching.

My experience is mostly with Californian houses that definitely had eaves.

pseudohadamard an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Being done here too (not Ireland): Right now, councils are approving, and builders are building, apartments/houses that are big square boxes with no eaves or shading, black synthetic cladding, and windows with safety stays that only allow them to open about 8cm so almost no cooling possible. The upper floors of these units are essentially uninhabitable during summer.

CalRobert 20 minutes ago | parent [-]

I really think Irish planners are climate change deniers. The ones in Offaly at least certainly didn't take it seriously ca. 2020.