Incorrect. They wouldn't fit in the tiny UK loading gauge (profile). UK trains are indeed variants of continental models, but made to custom size, and many (most?) of them in the UK.

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ErroneousBosh 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Leide nicht.

Trains in Germany and the UK for main-line running both use 1435mm gauge. UK trains are not a custom size.

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gpvos 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are. Rail gauge and loading gauge are different concepts. Use Wikipedia.

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phatfish 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Everything about UK rail is custom (apart from the gauge). Apparently it's one of the (many) reasons HS2 is such a mess.

They were trying to run trains faster than typical continental high speed lines, which meant custom design work that needs loads of additional testing and certification. Rather than just use the Spanish or French high speed designs.

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dcel 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Max line speed of HS2 is 360km/h, with provision for 400 in some sections in future. This is entirely in line with many other modern HS lines. China’s been running regular 360km/h services for years.

This is a project with a 200+ year shelf life. Designing to 300 or less would have been short sighted, and many of the changes to accommodate such high speeds actually reduce costs in the long term (slab track, headroom to catch up delayed services, ability for one trainset to operate more services per day etc).

The cost overruns of HS2 are primarily from plain old poor project management, complex planning law and constant political meddling, not engineering decisions.

	▲	tonyedgecombe an hour ago \| parent \| next [-]
		One of the drivers of cost has been the high speed part. It meant the route needed to be straight which meant more tunnelling to avoid certain areas. Lower speed track would have allowed them to route around problem areas.
	▲	bluGill 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		China has run at 360kmh before, but last I checked they mostly run slower. Air resistance is a killer as you go faster. So for trains 300 is usually about the best compromise between energy use and speed. If you want to go faster a jet at altitude is going to be much faster at a better fuel efficiency. High speeds make sense for long distances.
	▲	gib444 an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> Max line speed of HS2 is 360km/h, with provision for 400 in some sections in future. That's already been reduced to 320 km/h under this year's "HS2 reset". Which I imagine in reality will be 300 km/h normally at most, with even lower speeds seen day to day Interestingly the written report to the government stated "However, no railway in the UK, or globally, is currently engineered for 360 kph". Are you incorrect or did they forget to include China in their research? Anyway, I thought these were last decade's talking points? I thought it was all about capacity now, not speed? Except I thought there were also rumblings about reducing capacity from the previous announcements? Hard to keep up...!

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LargoLasskhyfv 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structure_gauge / Lichtraumprofil are different.