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Computer0 2 days ago

It's pretty clear Israel systematically kills Palestinian children to those paying attention. According to a public statement by the United Nations, Gaza has the highest number of child amputees per capita in the world. At least 21,289 children have been killed. They starve the population, drive them out of their homes. (https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...) This is the modus operandi of the Zionist belief system. It is a colonial settler ideology and they have to eradicate the natives, much like American settlers killed the native people and destroyed their way of life until they could keep them in tiny """sovereign nations""" where they would be crushed if they every truly tried to display any real sense of sovereignty. To be sovereign is to have a government with a monopoly on violence, the "reservations" are occupied.

gershy 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I'm trying to see the argument for "Israel deliberately targets children", closest thing I got was "Israel has made lots of children into amputees" - can you provide more info?

andriy_koval 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think its obvious that there will be a lot of children amputees in active denstly populated warzone.

gershy 2 days ago | parent [-]

I think there's an ethical difference between "we need to wage war on a densely populated area", and "we need to wage war on a densely populated area, let's make sure to harm the vulnerable people we encounter there". This is what I'm trying to differentiate between.

andriy_koval 2 days ago | parent [-]

We won't know without analyzing protocols how Israel picks targets.

Also, harming civilians is the norm in modern world. Russia absolutely deliberately is targeting critical civilian infra in Ukraine (e.g. grid during cold winter).

t0mpr1c3 19 hours ago | parent [-]

If the effect of your actions is a war crime, you are a war criminal.

If the Russians also do it, that is additional evidence of war crimes.

gershy 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But of course you're not arguing that collateral damage proves war crime?

andriy_koval 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> If the effect of your actions is a war crime, you are a war criminal.

war crimes usually defined by intent: were civilians targeted intentionally.

Computer0 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Were civilians targeted intentionally on 9/11? Or was it just a targeted assassination strike on some bankers? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_July_2024_al-Mawasi_attack) If I am attacked and legally have the right to self defense, but kill the neighbors "in the process of" defending myself because I fired 300 rounds at the attacker. Is that okay? I didn't do it "intentionally". But it is convenient that I hate them.

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lovich 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I gotta be honest, the phrase “colonial settler ideology” gets an instant eye roll and detracts from the rest of your statements. Most nations on the planet are formed of settlers unless you think there were always Russians in Siberia, or there were always Anglo-Saxons on Albion.

Computer0 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Those happened many lifetimes ago. Much like the slave trade we recognize these actions by our ancestors to be wrong. There are many different conversations about "Land Back" or reparations for those affected by these systems, which often lead to nowhere. The distinction is this is happening today.