this happens with alcohol and tobacco every day. i cant think of the last time it reached headline news.

My point is that the entire check is bypassed easily and instantly, and in the meantime the government gets data that someone _will_ figure out how to make personally identifying for adults, or will argue for changes to make it so. Alcohol age limits are a simple physical check for a vice that everyone accepts those who want it can get at. I’d rather demand that device manufacturers give parents effective controls before we try solving this problem by identifying internet users wholesale.

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pwg 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It does not reach headline news because everyone just accepts that the "filter" is imperfect.

But, for some reason, little twelve year old Jimmy obtaining access to porn evokes some kind of far more visceral reaction in Jimmy's parents (or if not Jimmy's parents, some "busybody" who wants to "protect all the children") than Jimmy managing to get himself a pack of Salem's or a Pabst Blue Ribbon tallboy.

	▲	john_strinlai 4 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		right, that's exactly what i was getting at with my original comment. none of the laws we have are 100% effective. so i find it weird that this specific topic always devolves into "well some kid will be able to get access, so your proposal sucks".
	▲	triceratops an hour ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		> little twelve year old Jimmy obtaining access to porn evokes some kind of far more visceral reaction in Jimmy's parents Because right now there's next to no barrier to access compared to Jimmy getting himself a beer. If you keep saying "Your proposal sucks because it isn't perfect and we should do nothing" then you're essentially surrendering to the people who really want facial scans.