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xacky 2 days ago

This is now the end of Wikipedia for me, it's only a matter of time before the rest of the admins try to split the wiki into endless forks.

rsynnott 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

... I mean, Sanger very publicly broke up with Wikipedia almost a quarter of a century ago. You may be a bit late.

Heidaradar 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

did you read the reason why he was blocked? I can't say who's right or wrong but their reasons for blocking him seem to be valid in nature.

xacky 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I've been following Wikipedia almost since it began, the stated reason is not matching the actual reason, They've wanted Larry Gone for years, even Jimmy will very be betrayed eventually. Unfortunately the real aftermath won't be known until many more get banned.

duskwuff a day ago | parent [-]

> They've wanted Larry Gone for years

Larry was essentially inactive* on Wikipedia from 2002 until he started stirring things up last year. Nobody "wanted him gone" - he simply wasn't relevant to the project.

*: Aside from updating his user profile and commenting on talk pages about himself and his projects.

mijoharas 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I found the thread hard to parse.[0].

Can you explain the reason? from a brief skim he is promoting some project he wants to start in wikipedia from outside wikipedia, is that it or did I misunderstand?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noti...

jasonlotito 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Simple.

He broke this rule: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Canvassing

This is fairly straightforward, with the result (blocked from editing) mentioned clearly. It doesn't matter the topic.

Being a cofounder is immaterial.

moralestapia a day ago | parent [-]

The link you provided does not describe what would be usually be thought of as a "rule".

Consider updating your comment to make more sense wrt. that.

echoangle a day ago | parent | next [-]

The rule is:

If there is a decision to be made on Wikipedia, the decision is made by reaching a consensus among Wikipedia users using discussions. You’re not allowed to bring in other people that might share your view but that might not even be Wikipedia users and have them argue your position for you. You’re not even allowed to selectively advertise the discussion among Wikipedia users to bias the discussion.

moralestapia a day ago | parent [-]

Sorry but that text is contained nowhere in the link that was provided neither are you the person I replied to.

What is this supposed to mean?

jasonlotito a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> The link you provided does not describe what would be usually be thought of as a "rule".

Yes, it does.

> Consider updating your comment to make more sense wrt. that.

It makes perfect sense to reasonable people.

n_e 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> There is general agreement among participants that he has engaged in off-wiki canvassing and is not here to constructively build the encyclopedia. There is also a significant concern shared by many editors that his actions constitute calls for outing.

gaiagraphia 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Always thought the dencrentalisation and forking of Wikipedia would be the endgame. Would allow for people to actually curate their own spaces again. Wikipedia is a great project, but I feel it's basically complete, and is technically limited.

Half the references are dead or paywalled, so it's impossible to actually read more about anything. I'm sure AI would effectively be able to recreate webs of knowledge.

Indexing services which compare different forks and communities providing different 'lenses' on topics would be incredibly interesting.

Would give various institutions around the world something to do, aswell; curating their space and giving a badge of approval to provide a slight anti-slop defence.

lambdaone a day ago | parent [-]

> Always thought the dencrentalisation and forking of Wikipedia would be the endgame. Would allow for people to actually curate their own spaces again.

Database dumps and software for the entire enyclopedia are avaible for free, and multiple forks already exist, including two which are run on behalf of the Russian and Chinese governments. You are, and have always been, more than welcome to create your own.

gaiagraphia 5 hours ago | parent [-]

I didn't argue against it though, did I? Read again.