| ▲ | Meta pauses AI training program tracking employee keystrokes after internal leak(businessinsider.com) |
| 122 points by petethomas 2 days ago | 35 comments |
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| ▲ | jdpigeon 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| This leak coming after all the reassurances that the intitiative passed privacy review and wouldn't be a leak risk is soo damning. Not only have the employees lost faith in the executive's integrity, but their basic competency as well. |
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| ▲ | Llamamoe a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Does anyone, ever, have any faith in the integrity or competence of executives, these days? Because it seems to me that most people would outright prefer them to burn but are powerless against the increasing abuses and betrayals of employees. | | |
| ▲ | notnaut a day ago | parent [-] | | 20% of the people will always just agree with the guy with the microphone. | | |
| ▲ | mannanj 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | seems to me that 20% of people agreeing, and the remaining 80% staying silent (or 79% with 1% vocal), leads to the abuse cycle continuing. The silent majority creates a false feeling of large consensus and inability to know the reality. |
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| ▲ | anecd4t4 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | In the history of humanity management has never been competent at scale. Entropy gives rise to signal attenuation which gives rise to generational churn which collapses empires and businesses All these people had was ZIRP and preferential taxation, and the even more ignorant masses imaginations to manipulate The ability has never been there because no real goal is there to build around; endless forever existence of Facebook and Meta? So like with Christianity, 2000 years from now people need to keep preaching to Saint Zuck's mind palace? That's not a real goal. Most SaaS companies existed only to serve a political meme of "create jobs". | |
| ▲ | snootypoot 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] |
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| ▲ | Havoc 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Keyloggers collect sensitive data? Some really sharp insight coming out of FB HQ here Stupid plan yields stupid results |
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| ▲ | Littice 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Using employees instead of contractors because they produce higher-quality data sounds less clever after you leak the employees' data. |
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| ▲ | timmytokyo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It really makes you wonder why anyone still wants to work there. The only reason I can imagine people are staying is because they're afraid they can't get work anywhere else. |
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| ▲ | 2OEH8eoCRo0 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Money. It's not complicated. | |
| ▲ | hawaiianbrah 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | It’s a terrible job market and they pay notoriously well. | | |
| ▲ | ss4fff 2 days ago | parent [-] | | No, the right framing is they are paid what they deserve. The premium they get paid is for being treating like shit. Anyone who has any sympathy for them is an absolute idiot. | | |
| ▲ | patch_dev a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Why aren't they deserving of sympathy? Crazy take and a massive lack of empathy. | | |
| ▲ | stiglitz a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Facebook is widely thought to cause significant societal damage; anyone who thinks so, would probably consider employees of Meta to be the ones lacking empathy. | | |
| ▲ | pfannkuchen a day ago | parent [-] | | So Facebook products are definitely not good for humans to use, sort of like cane sugar is not good for humans to use, but I wonder if you also think this about, I dunno, banks? They do vastly more predatory stuff with much bigger impacts. Nobody’s Facebook usage is affecting how much housing costs, for example. But for some reason there seems to be more outrage at social media companies. Odd! | | |
| ▲ | conception 13 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m not sure what this style of rhetoric is called but Matt Bors popularized it in his comic “Mister Gotcha”. And we can be against banks being predatory and Meta. Coincidentally on a thread about Meta the topic is more about them than banks. | |
| ▲ | Towaway69 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | If they do it, then we can do it too. So lets bomb some sucker nation or assassinate folks we summarily don't like, without due process. F'k it, if they do it, then we can also do it. How does that make anything better? It results in a degradation of societal values where morals and positive norms are assigned to the pages of history. There was a time when positive examples, folks standing up and resisting was seen as a something good. Nowadays everyone just does it because the others are even worse. So who should start making the world a better place? The others. |
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| ▲ | jfrbfbreudh a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Because they know what they are signing up for? I’ve only interviewed at Meta for practice even though I could earn ~250k a year more working there. | |
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| ▲ | qsxfthnkp2322 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is true at all of big tech. Management class is assholes. It’s been like this for too long. |
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| ▲ | sanjayjc a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "The incident was classified as a SEV 2 on a scale of 0 to 5, with 0 being the most severe." Only 2? |
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| ▲ | throwyawayyyy 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Hmm, also saying the scale is 0 to 5 is... something. In my experience, which was a while ago, no one cares about SEV 3, and I only ever saw SEV 4 used as a placeholder or TODO list. Never came across a SEV 5 in the world. It's really "SEV 2 on a scale of 0 to 3". | |
| ▲ | olyjohn 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah it only affects a few plebs. | |
| ▲ | consensus1 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | 12_throw_away 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | snootypoot 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i still laugh thinking that once, during my life, working for facebook was coveted and respected. |
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| ▲ | kamyarg 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Good. Hope this initiative fails spectacularly. |
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| ▲ | lenkite a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Does Mark Zuckerberg have his keystrokes tracked ? |
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| ▲ | ChrisArchitect 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Related: Petition against Meta's employee training data collection for ML models https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48623721 |
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| ▲ | fsuts a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The tried and trusted “Move fast and break things”… |
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| ▲ | djmips a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Meta sounds incredibly dystopian. Like a Black Mirror episode in real life! |
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| ▲ | jcgrillo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| ayy lmao play stupid games win stupid prizes |
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| ▲ | black_13 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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