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phil21 a day ago

> What this tells me is that like most hyperscalers, Microsoft is not price sensitive on the electricity side,

What this should likely tell you, is that you are missing information and have an incomplete picture of the situation.

Or it could be MSFT just likes to spend extra money for no reason because they are simply stupid. I'm gonna go with the former though.

I'd be interested in all these behind the meter setups for large 24x7 loads that are being built using solar+battery though. I haven't heard of one personally, but I must be lacking information on the subject since you seem so certain these are common?

Symbiote a day ago | parent [-]

Maybe this counts, although it isn't built yet:

https://www.datacenter-forum.com/edora/eurowind-energy-and-e...

There are many datacenters in Denmark with decade-plus power purchase agreements from a specific wind farm, but with so much news recently I can't find if there's any operational with their own supply.

phil21 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Certainly interesting! Much closer to what I feel is actual green power w/o the greenwashing such as the PPA's other facilities tend to use while actually just buying from the grid as a whole to deal with the "hard" parts of reliable power.

My frustration is that reliable power is the expensive part. Anyone can stand up some nameplate capacity in renewables, net out their numbers and pretend they are 100% green power in a press release. All while drawing from the "free" battery the grid supplies them at night or seasonally and letting someone else deal with the dirty part of it all. It's just not very interesting to me, as it's mostly marketing.

This one does seem to be grid-tied, but is much closer to the vision of actually being powered down to that last 5% via on-site batteries and wind. Power is like many things - the last 5% of reliability (or 1%, whatever) is the hard and expensive solve.

I remain skeptical batteries are going to end up being a solution for major datacenter buildouts in most locations. But I've been wrong before, and would love to be wrong about this one perhaps the most!