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sevenzero 2 days ago

If we cant grow past money as a species we are pretty much doomed. I'd rather have allegiance or community based incentives over monetary gain, given that most people on earth can't really afford life anymore and rack up debt so rich people can get richer.

alchemist1e9 a day ago | parent [-]

Capitalism is the single greatest force for improvement in the human condition. Money is the foundation of capitalism.

If you went to school and believe what you write then you went to terrible schools.

imtringued 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The problem is that the same people who say this also argue in favor of optimal extinction.

There is clearly something broken about the neoclassical market economy where it is optimal to not have children and to collapse the ecosystem with climate change (the economist who got a riksbank price for his climate change work suggested that 4°C warming is economically optimal).

sevenzero a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Capitalism also marked the end of humanity and is the single greatest force driving human extinction. But yall money driven brains cant comprehend that :)

alchemist1e9 a day ago | parent | next [-]

And how is it driving human extinction? It’s lifted humans out of endless poverty and bringing a coming age of abundance, what world are you living in?

sevenzero 21 hours ago | parent [-]

It's causing unhindered exploitation of resources and corruption. We are going to burn the very last tree on earth for chump change.

throwitaway222 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I guess my question to people that dislike capitalism, is - what do you want to see replace it? Capitalism with changes, Communism?

I don't think Humans can ever do anything other than capitalism because at the end of the day, a farmer making food and delivering it is just going to STOP working when he finds out a daycare owner has made $15 in 3 years without actually taking care of kids. And everyone just bubble wraps the explanation - and then they disallow anger. The farmer then writes up a proposal for starting a daycare and the food stops flowing. Everyone dies in communism.

sevenzero a day ago | parent [-]

>Everyone dies in communism.

Everyone dies in capitalism as well though. Everyone dies generally at some point in life.

Reality is, currently most of us are wage slaves and I'd love to work a little less and still be able to afford life. An alternative to capitalism would be socialism and killing corrupt people off.

jazzyjackson a day ago | parent [-]

> killing corrupt people off

Cool cool that doesn’t sound tyrannical at all

sevenzero 21 hours ago | parent [-]

I never claimed I was against tyranny. Tyranny thats emitted as rightful punishment from the masses is fine in my opinion. Single people having power emitting tyranny is a whole different topic. Its about outweighed consensus for me.

georgemcbay a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Capitalism is the single greatest force for improvement in the human condition.

Capitalism has done a lot of good in the world, and it has also done a lot of bad.

The problem isn't that capitalism exists, it is that far too many people treat it as a religion rather than a tool.