Regardless of the rights and wrong policy wise: Starmer was not a people person. I was as big a remainer as you'd ever find, and even I have to admit Boris Johnson could work people. Starmer was so inept in his day to day handling of his fellow humans it's surreal.

My personal favourite (and not the only example, but my own final straw) was his response when a large chunk of his traditional electorate voted for a female Plumber 'who wanted to make work pay for working people' and build 'healthier communities' is worth watching as an example of how to make more people jump ship.

For better or worse I signed up for the Green Party on the spot when I read that.

He was possibly a good backroom manager and well intentioned, but for leadership... no.

I didn't see that response, was it as bad as when he told his base the door was open and they should leave?