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JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago

> no one wants suffer the temporary pain to make the reforms needed to change it

If you could get one bill through Parliament, what would it do?

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Most of the real power is in the budget, which is technically a bill, but I would 100% go for "change the voting system". Almost anything except D'Hondt is better than FPTP; for simplicity, we could just copy the Scottish Parliament's use of AMS.

I would also insert a trapdoor that future changes to the voting system would require the approval of >50% of eligible voters, including non-voters. Yes, I know Parliament cannot bind its successors and all that, but at least I can make it look bad to change it again.

Does this solve any of the immediate problems? No. Does it solve the dysfunctionality since 2008? I think so, especially given that polling these days looks like five parties getting 20% of the vote each. Labour themselves came to power on 38% of the vote.

gaiagraphia 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Lots of the problems in the UK stem from a lack of strategic vision. More coalitions, infighting, compromises, etc aren't going to drive serious change home. Don't really care if it's Labour or Tory, tbh, just want national politics focus on bigger picture stuff and bulldoze through regs if it's a matter of strategic investment.

What would be nice for voting reform, is to add regional elections across the nation (replacing the old European ones). This would be a great layer of government to vote in coalitions, who deal with 'softer day to day areas of government' (care, benefits, roads, etc). Would be a great incubator for national talent, too. We should be able to see how future PMs deal with a region before trusting them with national affairs.

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rapsey 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The grand coalition governments of the EU are not in any way better. They just result in bickering and gridlock because parties that hate each other get stuck in the same room.

This is your pet issue, completely based on the grass looking greener on the other side.

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The gridlock is real whether it happens inside or outside the party. This is partly why we're here in the first place! Starmer is out because he couldn't do coalition management inside the Labour party.

rapsey 2 hours ago | parent [-]

He is out because he is an insane ideologue that the vast majority of the country despises.

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> insane ideologue

Man doesn't have any ideas! Let alone insane ones. He's simply the dull thud of quiescent authoritarianism.

gadders 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Honestly, go back to the Liz Truss plan. She tried to speed run implementation, but policy-wise it was all there.

dabeeeenster 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rejoin the EU, single market, customs union, drop sterling and take the Euro. This would almost certainly start a civil war in the UK (I am not being dramatic) but its what is needed.

Brexit was -8% GDP, according to Bank of England.

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This wouldn't start a civil war. Many of the Brexit voters are already dead and most of the rest are retired.

hn_throw2025 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Lovely comment thread. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you the “democrats”…

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/2016-leave-majori...

PunchyHamster 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, no, we don't want you, keep your mess to yourself instead of making it EU's

ulfw 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yea no will never happen.

Only way into the EU is way you described. Full on Schengen, EUR, no more special UK exceptions etc. Will never fly.

asplake 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Michel Barnier (EU's Brexit negotiator and later PM of France) suggests otherwise.

Exclusive: Former chief Brexit negotiator says staying out of euro and Schengen area would be ‘perfectly possible’" https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/18/uk-could-ke...

pjc50 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

EEA like Norway would be both a significant improvement, and does not require Euro. I do think we have to get to the point where we can say that actually Schengen was good and we should have been part of it before we get economically overtaken by Poland.

barrkel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Repeal Town and Country Planning Act 1947

Y_Y 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Disband the UK