| ▲ | r_lee 5 hours ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
if we are at 10x with AI and near AGI or ASI, then how is it possible that these products (Codex, Claude Code CLI) are still such garbage? shouldn't this "agentic AI revolution" have long solved this already? no way they're over there saying "we are on it plz wait" or that "it's too much effort"? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | igleria 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is the biggest elephant in the room I have seen in my decade+ career. At the same time, look how bad Apple is in software compared to its hardware... It's not an AI only problem, it's almost like software in general gets a free pass on being very unsafe or low quality because no one wants to face the same "profit reducing red tape" that civil engineers or similar face. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | hombre_fatal 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Like anything, you have to decide between polish vs switch to any other task in the queue. If you choose too much from the latter, then polish suffers, yet that's a human thing. Also, Codex and Claude Code aren't as bad as people say. I think most of the noise is embellished by the "hah see? AI sucks" angle. It's kind of like how HNers would claim to your face that you can't actually build anything with Javascript and Node.js (JS just sucks too much), then they'd list off a few footguns that were supposed to demonstrate why. In other words, champing at the bit for JS to lead people to catastrophize issues that were pretty mediocre. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | jeffybefffy519 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Because vibe coding is a toy… thats the secret. You can use it to accelerate development certainly, but that requires careful change->review cycles. The developer still needs to be in heavy control, versus vibe coding having an agent own the code base. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | ValentineC an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The "AI revolution" feels like it's creating a bunch of ultra-smart AI models are scarily good at cracking most of human-created security (Mythos), but also happen to be careless snobs that just leave litter and mess in their wake. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | mnicky 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If the code churn is high the investment to refactoring etc is less beneficial than may be obvious. I don't remember the details but I heard in some podcast that the code base of Claude Code changes so fast that any piece of code won't be there for long.. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | fg137 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
You are asking too many good questions. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | user43928 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The products generally work just fine on my MacBook. I have not encountered major issues in either the Claude Code CLI, the Codex Desktop app, or Claude Desktop app. They generally get the job done. I don't measure disk writes or analyze the GPU usage. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | Zababa 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A simple explanation is that they are "good enough" for most people and they have better things to do. Even if tomorrow I was 100 times as productive, I still wouldn't have time to do literally everything and I would have to prioritize. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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