Also see Schmidhuber's take on the Hinton + Hopfield Nobel prize: https://people.idsia.ch/~juergen/physics-nobel-2024-plagiari...

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Hoasi a day ago | parent | next [-]

Not that surprising since the whole LLM ecosystem is based on plagiarism.

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h8hawk a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's sad that he is the only one speaking out about Hinton. This whole Hinton glorification seems like it's being pushed by an agenda. I'm not sure if he would receive this much attention if he held a different view (closer to LeCun or Ng), rather than these Effective Altruism takes on current AI.

	▲	ks2048 a day ago \| parent [-]
		I don't associate Hinton will Effective Altruism. He did switch to focus on warning of the dangers of AI, but that was after he already was established as the father (or one of them) of deep learning.

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letssaythat a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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vld_chk a day ago | parent | next [-]

Hm, first time I see that Russian bots came to HN, but here we are. The history of comments of this account is insane.

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	▲	snowpid a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		I believe just someone who got too deep into Russian propaganda rabbid hole. The comment is too leaky for somebody working in St. Petersburg / a LLM.

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snowpid a day ago | parent | prev [-]

well, so you think, all parts and peoples of USSR were voluntarily part of USSR?

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onraglanroad a day ago | parent | next [-]

I was going to say that no country actually chose to join the USSR but perhaps I'm wrong.

Did any country voluntarily choose to join? Maybe Belarus?

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letssaythat a day ago | parent | prev [-]

No, not all, though you will be surprised how many convinced communists were even in Lithuania, to pick one example (a fact which today's Lithuania hides).

And do you think the people in Europe are voluntarily a part of your undeclared, but very much existing, empire?

	▲	snowpid an hour ago \| parent [-]
		"And do you think the people in Europe are voluntarily a part of your undeclared, but very much existing, empire?" I think most people are voluntary part of the EU or Germany. Both aren't empires because the broad majority of people living in these entities wants to be part of the entity. https://news.gallup.com/poll/700661/earns-steady-high-approv... Did you seriously assume I am from the US?

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larodi a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Read through his papers, and these are substantial accusations. Perhaps Hinton et al. should investigate, and either a) correct themselves by properly citing these Munich researchers; or b) proove they did not base their work (unlikely) on these papers;

And then, as a whole, this weighs in favor of European scholars and also should properly inform the funding of similar research in the EU.

Writing the last in the light of a month-and-a-half wait (to date) for EuroHPC to process their own form where we submitted a funding request by no less than University + Private Company already established in the area + 4 alumni, two PHDs and one postdoc. Zero response since.