| ▲ | orbital-decay 2 hours ago |
| This is a very... US comment to make. |
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| ▲ | JuniperMesos an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| There have been cases in the US where homeowners shot cops dead who were in the process of unexpectedly raiding their home, because the homeowner had no idea they were cops and not home invasion robbers; and in some cases have been acquitted of murder charges by juries for this. I'd personally like to see the laws protecting this strengthened, to make sure that cops aren't charging unannounced into peoples' homes and then charging the homeowner with murder when they react with reasonable gun violence in self-defense. |
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| ▲ | ktallett an hour ago | parent [-] | | I would much prefer a society where all homeowners and cops don't carry guns and cops were fired for illegal raids. | | |
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| ▲ | l23k4 8 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm fully European, would not wonder for a second before plunging a knife into an intruder if I happened to have one near me. |
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| ▲ | koonsolo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No it is not. Europeans can have guns, and there was a recent case in Belgium where such a thing happened. |
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| ▲ | Jolter an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m pretty sure you’re not allowed to use your legal firearms against people in Denmark. Even in a home intrusion event. | | |
| ▲ | l23k4 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | In the EU the answer is always "it's unclear". Yes you can, but you also can't. ECHR necessarily guarantees the right to shoot some intruders in some situations, but it's kind of impossible to know which situations those are except after the fact. |
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| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | Sammi an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | This was in Denmark | | |
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| ▲ | impossiblefork 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Yes and no. Weapons are normal here too. |
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| ▲ | stefanfisk an hour ago | parent [-] | | Shooting intruders isn’t though. They’d basically have to attack you first for lethal force to be legal. | | |
| ▲ | impossiblefork 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | This is not the law here in Sweden, at least. We don't have precedent in the way that common law countries do, and the judgements in actual cases point in slightly different directions-- in one case a court felt that the failure to fire a warning shot made it not self-defence, in another fighting people trying to get into an apartment with a knife was deemed acceptable. Generally though, if someone is breaking into your apartment while you're there, possibly trying to get at you, there's no limit, as long as you're actually trying to defend yourself (so no executing someone who you've clearly disabled, etc.). If people are breaking into your apartment and you fire a warning shot, then proceed to shoot the attackers, no one will complain. | |
| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [deleted] | |
| ▲ | MemoryHoleHQ 42 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | If a masked person, that doesn't first identify themselves clearly as the police (which is difficult since, well, they are masked) breaks into my house, that's a lethal attack for sure. What are you going to do after they enter the house (if they aren't indeed the police and you trust they won't kill or rape your family)? |
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