| ▲ | Quothling 2 hours ago |
| I'm Danish and lars kragh andersen is a bit of a grey zone. He obviously goes over the line, he tried to put GPS trackers on the cars of ministers. He "stalks" their families, and dox their children online. He gave an interview on how he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed when he was a cop because he doesn't agree with the "war on drugs". On the flip-side, he's sort of right. I assume that putting a GPS tracker on the car of our minister of justice is illegal, but that same minister (Peter Hummelgaard) is one of the key forces behind anti-encryption here in Europe. Similarily the politicians he stalk and harras are pro Palintir getting access to all our data, so Lars Andersen is sort of giving the politicians a taste of what they want to give everyone. He goes way too far though. Especially if he actually wants change, the way he "protests" is directly damaging his own cause, since nobody is going to sympathise with harrassing children. I suspect next time he'll have his cameras running with backup powers though. |
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| ▲ | xiphias2 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I think the sim cards are more important: he wrote that Nest switched to local recording mode and the police took the evidence. |
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| ▲ | monegator 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > He goes way too far though that's what activist have to do to shake people |
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| ▲ | raverbashing 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I'll take "Actions that will backfire and you come across as the villain" for $100 Alex | | |
| ▲ | l23k4 3 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Worked for the IRA. Working for Hamas. Working for the Islamic Republic. Cowards would have you believe otherwise, but force is sometimes the only way to get what you want. |
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| ▲ | pembrook an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t think he goes too far at all. If politicians are attempting to undermine your children’s right to privacy forever, and yet these same politicians don’t like when this is being done to their own children…it shows either an astonishing level of hypocrisy and/or stupidity. Europe is filled with these types of authoritarian urbanites, who make decisions from an elitist “i know what’s best for you” attitude while eating 6 course dinners. This is the same class of European leaders who steered the regions entire energy/economic/social policy so bad that the whole European model of the last few decades is in slow collapse and fiscally unsustainable. Yet ironically, the most common phrase you’ll hear while eating these 6 course dinners is “sustainability.” These people are some of the worst hypocrites on pretty much every topic imaginable and need to be called out for it. |
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| ▲ | Quothling an hour ago | parent [-] | | This is what I meant by the grey zone. I personally think it goes too far, but I agree with the point you make here. Where it becomes problematic is that the method does not get the point across to any audience which doesn't already agree with them. Compare this to Jesper Graugaard, who is know locally as the "Chromebook-dad". He's been campaigning against big tech in our schools for like a decade, and after 6 years we recently had a ruling forbidding our cities from using Google services without proper data ownership agreements. He's obviously not the only party behind this, but he's a massive force in the agenda against non-EU tech in our schools. He does it through reform and political campaigning. Jesper has wide public support, Lars is not viewed favourable. This story hasn't even hit our news, I've only heard about it here on HN. | | |
| ▲ | pembrook 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think you and I disagree. I don’t think Jesper is attacking the right issues. Big tech (private companies who largely just care about profits) and foreign governments (the Americans for example), are way lower on my “things Europe should be worried” about list. They’re there of course, but lower. Private companies don’t have the ability to ruin your life in the same way your own government does. They just want your money. And the US government is truly a disinterested party. 99% of Americans couldn’t place Denmark on a map (I’m not kidding). When push comes to shove, they fundamentally do not care what happens here. The real threat is our own governments, who we have given the legal authority to enact all the negative outcomes that will come from totalitarian erosions of privacy and over regulation of individuals. Building up this scary “foreign boogieman” and stoking this moral panic is what is enabling the authoritarian action. Pointing fingers at Big Tech and the US is a giant distraction tactic so you don’t look at the terrible things our own domestic politicians have done and the fact they have zero plans to do the hard things needed to get us out of this mess. It's just champagne and smiling over dinner, while the old eat the young, the government eats the private sector, and endless legislation eats away your opportunity to do anything more exciting than build powerpoints at a braindead consulting firm. |
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| ▲ | dataflow 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm confused reading this. How in the world is GPS-tracking someone's car supposed to show hypocrisy with respect to encryption? |
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| ▲ | rexpop an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > he'd ignore people carrying a kilo gram of weed This is an unequivocally reasonable approach. The prohibition of cannabis is a grotesque charade. |
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| ▲ | N_Lens 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I expect he’ll be justified and vindicated in history if we end up in a global totalitarian prison planet scenario that seems to become more possible as the tech reaches that capability. “For the safety of the children” ofcourse. |
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| ▲ | AnonymousPlanet 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | What kind of history will a totalitarian prison planet write, I wonder. | | |
| ▲ | N_Lens an hour ago | parent [-] | | 1984 will be banned as being too inspirational, perhaps? | | |
| ▲ | KSteffensen 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | 1984 is not inspirational, it's cautionary. The main character has already lost from the first page of the book. | | |
| ▲ | chopin 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I tend to disagree. 1984 seems the playbook for the majority of politicians. For them, it's inspirational. |
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| ▲ | dmantis 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | World is not black and white. Most people would probably prefer to live in a world with low-power petty-crime rings and ability to be free and safe apart from having their wallet stolen once in a while rather than with e.g. Russian-like state mafia country with enormous amount of power and ability to target everyone at every time for their families interests. When you have a destroyed social ladder and everything can be taken at any moment under few people control immediately because they just want it. That's apart from the fact that in the palantir case you also invite foreign intelligence and CIA to your home. | |
| ▲ | zx8080 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sarcasm tag missing or is this serious? | | |
| ▲ | elric an hour ago | parent [-] | | They're probably not being sarcastic. Wrong, and ppssibly evil, but not sarcastic. There are some weirdly big Palantir fans on HN. No clue what drives them, but I'm guessing they're not keen students of history. | | |
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| ▲ | SjokoladeIsHare 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Who cares about weed? Danes. | | |
| ▲ | protocolture 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Why? Seems stupid. Just let people weed. | | |
| ▲ | LtWorf 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Pretending to be a moral person to harass others is way more important than being a moral person. Jesus in the gospel has no kind words for such people but many "christian" societies haven't yet decided to follow that part. |
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| ▲ | giancarlostoro 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | People who dont pretend it has zero negative consequences as well. I understand the medicinal uses, most people arent even doing that, but we are overlooking so many things. I think someone should fund serious studies that look at all the benefits and negatives, sadly we dont live in a perfect world. | | |
| ▲ | necovek an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | There have been plenty of studies. People overdose on legal stimulants and drugs all the time (caffeine, alcohol, OTC drugs...). Nothing points to THC being at all worse than many other legal stimulants. | |
| ▲ | wartywhoa23 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | We are overlooking even more things about perfectly legal alcohol. |
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