I find Metas work very unethical but me but I think they should have basic workers rights still. Like yes what Meta is doing is legal and it’s at will work, but this level of surveillance feels like something the law didn’t really anticipate.

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foltik 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t disagree. It’s dehumanizing, and they have a legitimate complaint. In almost any other context I’d be on the side of the workers here. I just have a hard time seeing Meta employees as innocent or helpless bystanders.

	▲	jakelazaroff 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yeah, this is very much a "leopards ate my face" moment.

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siren2026 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> I think they should have basic workers rights still

You make it look like they are underpaid poor manual workers.

Those are people that chose to make >500k$/year by joining a company that is known to be one of the most toxic tech companies. Mos tof those people had probably multiple offers ad decided to optimize for money besides anything else. I have a hard time to feel sympathy or petition for their "worker's rights"

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xboxnolifes 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The thing about workers' rights, is that they are rights. They don't go away when you get paid more, and they apply to everyone.

	▲	BrenBarn 11 hours ago \| parent [-]
		But that is also the thing about everyone's rights. No one should be subject to Facebook's surveillance, whether they work for Facebook or not.

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gacgacgac 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Workers are workers. We have so much more in common with one another than we do with the capital class.

Turning against a worker because they are doing better than another worker is giving in the divide and rule.

Historically, this is exactly how factory owners tried to get the white and Black workers to schism rather than unionize.

Workers deserve workers rights, and we should have solidarity towards all workers.

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compass_copium 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I guess man. This kind of doesn't apply to workers who are enabling the bourgeoisie state (cops, programmers making systems to feed data to the NSA, etc.)

	▲	gacgacgac 9 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I ... actually agree with this. But I think we gotta deliberately select who that applies to. Is it everyone at Meta? Like, are we all culpable for our employers sins? Or are we all squeezed by a system where we gotta work to eat and the people who decide what jobs exist are the capital class? Like, obviously cops aren't workers, but what level of culpability does a person working in Meta's disability accommodations team have? I dunno. Hard question.

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tibbar 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This feels overly cynical. My long-time friend took a job at Meta (over equally compelling financial alternatives) because the manager pitched the team and growth prospects well. (Meta turned out to be quite disappointing on these fronts. I never heard money as an important factor for joining or for leaving.)

In general, the kind of people who get an offer from any particular big tech company probably can get similar money elsewhere, so it's unlikely to be as big a factor as you suggest.